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Post by molly on Nov 18, 2003 15:43:16 GMT -5
:DLOL!LOL! CP You got that right!!! Otis is blessed,and I think he always knew it. That's why he did what ever to keep the group together. Couldn't see O embarking on a solo career.LOL!LOL! Hell I couldn't see him hooking up with another group.LOL!LOL!
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Post by Joda on Nov 18, 2003 16:21:45 GMT -5
I wonder if you, my fellow posters, think for one minute that I don't know how and what David went through. However, David himself told me that he loved Otis and forgave him. How can I do less? I told you a few days ago, that what goes around, comes around. What ever pain we cause, we have to answer to it. I ask Otis to tell the family, loved ones and friends WHY, that goes along way in forgiving someone. I hate for his family to hear the gossip like the gossip that has been told about David. Some of his family may be blind, but some of them know him well. David was not without fault, he was not infallible... I just know that Otis has to live with his decisions as we do.
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Post by Common on Nov 18, 2003 16:44:52 GMT -5
:DLOL!LOL! CP You got that right!!! Otis is blessed,and I think he always knew it. That's why he did what ever to keep the group together. Couldn't see O embarking on a solo career.LOL!LOL! Hell I couldn't see him hooking up with another group.LOL!LOL! Molly, you got that right!!
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Post by molly on Nov 18, 2003 17:40:38 GMT -5
8-)Jody,I am sure you know some of what David went through as a Temptation. I have never heard David say he loved Otis,but I believe that he let by-gones be by-gones, Otis has said he loved David like a brother. I disagree with you in regards to David's immediate family. They are not blind as to what David went through,nor are they blind to what David bought on himself.They were there Jody. Nobody on this board is attacking Otis as a man,rather we are talking about Otis the Minimal talented performer. CP was so right,Otis was blessed to have been surrounded with those talented brothers,that were called The Temptations. Otis's only contribution as I see it was that of a organizer,because he was Clearly the Least Talented of the 5. He was instrumental in keeping them together. And as Common said he had the Most to loose. I don't really think that David's family cares one way or the other about Otis Williams or his motives. And speaking as a friend of David's neither do I. I saw Otis when they were filming the miniseries in Pittsburgh,and I don't have any ill feelings towards him as a person. But as a performer he leaves at least for me a LOT to be desired. And That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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Post by molly on Nov 18, 2003 17:59:48 GMT -5
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Post by Joda on Nov 18, 2003 19:52:59 GMT -5
Molly Marge. go back and read again, I said some of Otis family may be blind. Not David's. I agree that Otis is not the most talented of the five, but I have never really heard him do much of anything. SO, Regarding David saying he loved Otis, he has talked about loving all of them. In particular Eddie. Reference, being called David Ruffin and the Temptations, that is what brought up the above. NO, I didn't know David as a Temptation, but I did know David after and during the years he was scrambling to find work and how he talked about it. David was so elated when he went to Warner Brothers. He thought that all of that was behind him. NOT, they let him down as well. Marge, You and your husband were David's friend, he may have told you many things, that I don't question. He probably told all of us what he wanted us to know. There was so much that David told me, I will never tell. I had no reason to dispel what he said as the truth. Later my friend...
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Post by Andy on Nov 18, 2003 20:24:17 GMT -5
My real view of Otis is different from all of yours. I think all of you are too kind to him. In 1967 he was plotting to kick DR out of the group even though they they vowed to be partners. Otis was more than an organizer- he was the muscle man determined to muscle anyone who stood in his way. That's my opinion, no joking, cross my heart. But he was not dumb. Greasey yes, dumb no.
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Post by davidspeaks on Nov 18, 2003 23:17:46 GMT -5
will somebody tell that jody to stop using my name in vain? I don't know that woman!
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Post by molly on Nov 18, 2003 23:21:47 GMT -5
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Post by molly on Nov 18, 2003 23:36:12 GMT -5
Jody, I thought you were refering to David's family in your post. Which brings me to ask what gossip are you refering to about Otis?? There has not been anything on this board that was derogatory about him as a person. Although there are certainly things that could be said that would be the Truth. Saying he was the least of the 5 is not gossip thats the truth. Hell his family know's that ,so does Otis. You're right me and my ex-husband were friends of David's and David did talk about leaving the group,but we were also around David before and during the time he left the Temptatons,so we saw a lot ot mess that David didn't tell us. We were also around David when he was looking for work in his later years. I can undersatnd you not wanting to repeat thing's that David said to you,but how are you going to refute any rumor's and lies about him without saying something that he actually said? Since you weren't there all you can relate is what he actually said to you on a subject. David is gone and what he left behind in addition to his music legacy is his conversations he had with people. I'm Not saying that the intimate things are of interest to anybody,but if he ever told you anything that would dispel any of the lies that are being told,then why would you not repeat that? The only way any of us that knew David can refute some of these lies and rumors is to say what really happned as we remember it,or as we were told by David. I really try to do that with David and Tammi. There are thing's regarding both of these people that I would repeat to only a few people,because of the nature of the informaton. But when I can use either of their word's to set the record straight I do and I will.
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Post by molly on Nov 18, 2003 23:39:45 GMT -5
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Post by Andy on Nov 19, 2003 5:23:19 GMT -5
Hi Molly: Sorry about that drink, but we wanted to post the pix asap b/c the gag was getting stale.
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Post by molly on Nov 19, 2003 8:23:15 GMT -5
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Post by Andy on Nov 19, 2003 9:54:43 GMT -5
Molly: By the way, you sang well and danced even better.
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Post by molly on Nov 19, 2003 10:03:12 GMT -5
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