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Post by Queenie on Dec 30, 2003 21:45:34 GMT -5
Justy - take chill pill David is human like the rest of us we all mistakes ask Genna!!!
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Post by BeesNVMe on Dec 31, 2003 0:45:47 GMT -5
See...it's like this! At times my child's father makes me so , I could darn near murder him. But because he is my child's father, I would never tell her that. I don't even discuss with her the reason why I feel that way. I want my daughter to have a clear perception of who the man is...not who I think he is. My relationship and her relationship with him is very different. Let her tell it, he's the greatest father in the world...I'm the bad guy! Let me tell it, he's the world's greatest :mun: It is my responsibility as a parent not to disrespect or disregard my child's father. There is no way in the world I would disclose any negative biased ass information to my child. That is very detrimental to the well being of the child...it might as well be abuse! If I just had to write a book about my child's father, there is no way in hell I could have written what that woman wrote and look my child in the face. That negative information that she put out on David is only a reflection of her. I don't want any of that!
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Post by Common on Dec 31, 2003 0:53:51 GMT -5
CP, that's a good analogy that you used. It makes alot of sense to me.
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Post by Queenie on Dec 31, 2003 5:45:29 GMT -5
<<CP>>, I totally agree with you let the children find out about their dad instead of the mother bashing father. I can relate to David's children my father who was married/children went out on my mother plenty of times but my mother never trashed him public or privately in return I have a great respect for her. I am an adult and love my father unconditional regardless of his flaws. Matter of fact, all the children thinks he is best thing since slice cheese. And yes, my father has other children but we all get along!!
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Post by Joy on Dec 31, 2003 6:51:53 GMT -5
To NewDavidFan- Yes could you please send that to me on email. Let me know were to send my email to you. Yes I call her the groupie, of course I haven't read the book, but when I saw her website, it appears that she has centered her life around Ruffin.
To All: I will try to summarize everything I have read. I figure what I heard Tammy do was Motown way of giving her a good clean image. I figure it could be know way she didn't know. I also heard that the book Otis wrote didn't portray Ruffin as bad as the movie did. If his wife at the time would come and visit motown and he took is daughter to shows. Then why wasn't some of that portrayed. The movie made it seem like he was single and partied all the time. With that I will say I don't believe everything in that movie. I usually don't when it comes to movies. As for justy, der68 summed it up. You stated we should be mindful of jr. feelings but obviously she wasn't mindful of her own sons as well as the rest of Ruffin's childrens feelings when she came out with that book. Even though I haven't read it yet, but not only on this board on amazon.com and other places, the reviews are not good at all. I am not hating on David Ruffin Jr., or trying to start something, but is it really jr., when his father's name is Davis E. Ruffin.? It appears to me that either she didn't know him well enough to even know his real name (Davis Ruffin), when she name her son David. It is good to know his wife at that time didn't take no SH*T. I hope molly, you tell us the story one day.
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Post by justy on Dec 31, 2003 11:29:50 GMT -5
who brought Sandra into this? She is a martyr to have endured what she did. The point is, you all keep on and on and on about these books and the more you do the more readers are purchasing them to see what the hoopla is about. Regardless, if it was anyone from Sandra to Diane, all these “ladies” (except you der68, you have a nastiest demeanor for a female) were apparently important to David Ruffin. If you all are so keen on honoring him, then why continually slam only certain women in his life. The two he married are the only two who did not commit adultery. Justy tryin to understand?
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Post by BeesNVMe on Dec 31, 2003 11:49:35 GMT -5
Blessed, that's an interesting point you made. It is strange that Jr is named David, when DR's legal name was Davis. It further makes me realize that his mother is trying to cash in on DR's name. Justy, I wish more people would read the book, I just recommend they read it free...cuz after they have spent their money, they will wished they hadn't. People have a right to express themselves, especially when the book is as controversial as it is. Would you prefer people read the book and applaud Genna on her great literary efforts, which surely will win her a Pulitzer prize? I am a firm believer in expressing my opinion, and wish others would too, whether or not they agree with me. I don't intend to personally attack a person for their beliefs, but I certainly will attack their issue with a vengance! As far as 'slamming certain women' ? (Genna is singular...who are the others?) Genna served herself on a platter when she released that 'book.' Evidently, she does not care about being slammed as long as she is selling the book. I say...brang it!
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Post by Common on Dec 31, 2003 14:08:27 GMT -5
Sandra's name comes up in it because the way genna would have people think, she is totally irrevelant in David's story. she was trashed in this genna's book as well so if anyone is "slamming" the women David's life, it's genna. Those women didn't do anything to her except love David Ruffin. And some of the posters are asking questions about the book because they haven't read it. So I don't get what we are going "on & on" about. After all, genna is the one who wrote the book & wanted the attention. now she's got it, so what's the problem?? Critics do literary criticism on a daily basis & people would still buy a book regardless what they say. People have the choice to buy her book or not but I think that most people already have it. Lawd, I can see this New Year is gonna start off with a bang!
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Post by observer on Dec 31, 2003 16:22:07 GMT -5
genna sepia has put the ruffin family through enough grief. people who defend her don't have a clue what she continues to do this family but to hear these defenders tell it genna is the victim. couldn't far from the truth.
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Post by molly on Dec 31, 2003 16:44:54 GMT -5
genna sepia has put the ruffin family through enough grief. people who defend her don't have a clue what she continues to do this family but to hear these defenders tell it genna is the victim. couldn't far from the truth. Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! The people that come to her defense don't "care" what she has and is doing to his family. What kind of mentality do you have to have to defend genna? Kinda scary isn't it.
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Post by justy on Dec 31, 2003 16:58:40 GMT -5
Gena is not a victim. I am not taking sides. David was not a trophy, yet all these women fight and argue over him and he has been gone years. How could Gena have written a book without telling everything? I believe others when they say David ruffin did not hit them, I also believe her writings when she said he did. I have read the book twice and she points the judgmental finger at herself also. Many of you are saying you would not pay $5 for the book then why critique it? You say you want to honor his memory, life and music, then allow others to have a point of view, others that knew him well. We truly do not know someone until we understand their point of view.
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Post by Common on Dec 31, 2003 17:11:52 GMT -5
Who are these women that are "fighting & arguing" over him? And isn't doing the same thing with her book, "arguing & fighting" with women whom was with David?? The point is that Genna put this book out IN THE PUBLIC VIEW so now you want to tell me people they don't have a right to comment on it, whether they bought it or not?? I mean, this woman has a website & has been on other sites PROMOTING this book, & now because some people have expressed their VIEWS & OPINIONS on the book, they are wrong for doing so?? And sounds like to me that you are taking sides by your first post by telling us to "wake up" as if we are here supporting & defending everything that David has ever done, which is far from it.
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Post by molly on Dec 31, 2003 17:29:15 GMT -5
who brought Sandra into this? She is a martyr to have endured what she did. The point is, you all keep on and on and on about these books and the more you do the more readers are purchasing them to see what the hoopla is about. Regardless, if it was anyone from Sandra to Diane, all these “ladies” (except you der68, you have a nastiest demeanor for a female) were apparently important to David Ruffin. If you all are so keen on honoring him, then why continually slam only certain women in his life. The two he married are the only two who did not commit adultery. Justy tryin to understand? Justy just needs to mind her/his damn business. Do you know any of these people? My guess is a big fat NO! NOBODY was speaking about David's infidelities! Genna's book was the subject. You come on here talking about her illegitamite Son like his friends and fans owe him something. Jr. wasn't the topic of ANY discussion either. Did you even read the thread? At any rate We can keep on and on and on about any damn subject We choose. Genna put her own "mistreated" out there. Now you are offended because we are speaking on it? We who bought the book certainly have the right to voice our opinions. Genna is the one that berated everybody in David's life. Including Sandra and her children. Have you read the book? Have you read any of the reviews? The book was written by a bitter and probably battered "baby momma" who most people didn't even know of until the book. A hanger-oner that was rejected for another woman in more than one instance. You have the audacity to group her in a catergory with Sandra? Not Even! Genna is most likely the one person in this whole senario that you know and she is in no ways a "lady". Abused? maybe! prpbably! Distrubed? Vindictive? definitely! Her "Love Story " was written to get her recognition and it did do just that. You and she should be happy now at last people know Who and What the Hell she is!!!
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Post by molly on Dec 31, 2003 17:40:54 GMT -5
Gena is not a victim. I am not taking sides. David was not a trophy, yet all these women fight and argue over him and he has been gone years. How could Gena have written a book without telling everything? I believe others when they say David ruffin did not hit them, I also believe her writings when she said he did. I have read the book twice and she points the judgmental finger at herself also. Many of you are saying you would not pay $5 for the book then why critique it? You say you want to honor his memory, life and music, then allow others to have a point of view, others that knew him well. We truly do not know someone until we understand their point of view. What Is Your Point? ? You are the one that has a problem with US expressing our point of view! Who are the others that knew him well? It's certainly not you! Maybe we don't want to try to understand Genna's point of view or Your's either for that matter. Maybe we just want to express our Opinions to Each other in our Forum. Since NOBODY was talking to you why do you care? David not a Trophy? Why don't you tell Genna that one? Because that's exactly how she wants to portray him. Her Trophy!
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Post by justy on Dec 31, 2003 18:00:50 GMT -5
What Is Your Point? ? You are the one that has a problem with US expressing our point of view! Who are the others that knew him well? It's certainly not you! Maybe we don't want to try to understand Genna's point of view or Your's either for that matter. Maybe we just want to express our Opinions to Each other in our Forum. Since NOBODY was talking to you why do you care? David not a Trophy? Why don't you tell Genna that one? Because that's exactly how she wants to portray him. Her Trophy! Now you do not know if I knew him or not, do you? My point is, you doth protest too much......
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