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Post by Queenie on Apr 4, 2004 15:07:16 GMT -5
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After the perusing the book "Motown The Golden Years" written by Bill Daphl photos by Weldon McDougal III.. I have to be honest I bought the book because of David and tempts...
A bio written by the author stated David had a heart condition as a child. I wonder did the heart condition contribute to David's death.. I have heard so much about how drugs have played a part in David leaving the world but if he had bad heart... Maybe David died of heart attack.. simple as that... If so,,, the people who so called knew David did not know a darn thing about one in particular O...
btw, I am not trying to bring up bad stuff about him I just trying to understand the many facets of Mr.David Ruffin's life...
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Post by Davidfan on Apr 4, 2004 17:11:32 GMT -5
Board,,, After the perusing the book "Motown The Golden Years" written by Bill Daphl photos by Weldon McDougal III.. I have to be honest I bought the book because of David and tempts... A bio written by the author stated David had a heart condition as a child. I wonder did the heart condition contribute to David's death.. I have heard so much about how drugs have played a part in David leaving the world but if he had bad heart... Maybe David died of heart attack.. simple as that... If so,,, the people who so called knew David did not know a darn thing about one in particular O... btw, I am not trying to bring up bad stuff about him I just trying to understand the many facets of Mr.David Ruffin's life... Here is something about DR death you should know then ... The doctors RULED it as an OD ... But DR died of respritory failure ... But they said OD because Res. Failure is a thing that happens when you do drugs ... But for all we know (or they knew) David just died no OD .... Health problems ... But then ... We also know there is a much bigger chance it was OD .... But it is kinda funny he and paul were wearing the same thing when they died .... I ain't saying murder but ... *cough murder cough* ... ;D
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Post by molly on Apr 5, 2004 10:37:16 GMT -5
Board,,, After the perusing the book "Motown The Golden Years" written by Bill Daphl photos by Weldon McDougal III.. I have to be honest I bought the book because of David and tempts... A bio written by the author stated David had a heart condition as a child. I wonder did the heart condition contribute to David's death.. I have heard so much about how drugs have played a part in David leaving the world but if he had bad heart... Maybe David died of heart attack.. simple as that... If so,,, the people who so called knew David did not know a darn thing about one in particular O... btw, I am not trying to bring up bad stuff about him I just trying to understand the many facets of Mr.David Ruffin's life... QNew. I believe the official report was he died from complications resulting from a cocaine overdose. Ruffin did have cocaine in his system,I don't think anybody disagree's with that. There was a coroner's report that stated that. As davidfan stated he did have respritory problems from child hood. Since drugs can destroy a heathy,strong body drugs either directly or indirectly contribute to his death. Ruffin had abused drugs for many years,they had to have taken some toll on him. If indeed he did OD that particular night that wasn't the first time he had. Difference is Ruffin had been rescued when he had previous OD's. I think this subject will be discussed as long a David Ruffin's career is dicussed. Because there were so many questions concerning that night. I do not agree that Ruffin's death was not investigated because he was just another "black" entertainer. I do believe drug OD was a obvious cause of death because he was a known addict, and had been one for years. I do question whether the drugs were tainted, or if Ruffin did indeed ingest willingly a massive amount of drugs. Also how much time expired between him feeling ill and his arrival at the emergency room. If reports are true that he was actually in the crack house when he got sick. Common sense tells us that the people in the crack house weren't concerned about his state of health. So we don't know how long he laid their sick. Again that is if he took ill in the crack house. I have never totally ruled out foul play,but it has never been proven.
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Post by Drexll on Apr 5, 2004 12:40:34 GMT -5
Board,,, After the perusing the book "Motown The Golden Years" written by Bill Daphl photos by Weldon McDougal III.. I have to be honest I bought the book because of David and tempts... A bio written by the author stated David had a heart condition as a child. I wonder did the heart condition contribute to David's death.. I have heard so much about how drugs have played a part in David leaving the world but if he had bad heart... Maybe David died of heart attack.. simple as that... If so,,, the people who so called knew David did not know a darn thing about one in particular O... btw, I am not trying to bring up bad stuff about him I just trying to understand the many facets of Mr.David Ruffin's life... Ms. Molly, QueenNDF, or DavidFan, on the cover on this book, in the upper right-hand corner, is a small square pix of a man with a hat and glasses on, does anyone know who this is? Just wondering, cause it looks likes several folks to me, thanks, Drex
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Post by Common on Apr 5, 2004 13:06:26 GMT -5
Ms. Molly, QueenNDF, or DavidFan, on the cover on this book, in the upper right-hand corner, is a small square pix of a man with a hat and glasses on, does anyone know who this is? Just wondering, cause it looks likes several folks to me, thanks, Drex I think that's Marvin Gaye you're referring to.
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Post by Common on Apr 5, 2004 13:14:27 GMT -5
QNew. I believe the official report was he died from complications resulting from a cocaine overdose. Ruffin did have cocaine in his system,I don't think anybody disagree's with that. There was a coroner's report that stated that. As davidfan stated he did have respritory problems from child hood. Since drugs can destroy a heathy,strong body drugs either directly or indirectly contribute to his death. Ruffin had abused drugs for many years,they had to have taken some toll on him. If indeed he did OD that particular night that wasn't the first time he had. Difference is Ruffin had been rescued when he had previous OD's. I think this subject will be discussed as long a David Ruffin's career is dicussed. Because there were so many questions concerning that night. I do not agree that Ruffin's death was not investigated because he was just another "black" entertainer. I do believe drug OD was a obvious cause of death because he was a known addict, and had been one for years. I do question whether the drugs were tainted, or if Ruffin did indeed ingest willingly a massive amount of drugs. Also how much time expired between him feeling ill and his arrival at the emergency room. If reports are true that he was actually in the crack house when he got sick. Common sense tells us that the people in the crack house weren't concerned about his state of health. So we don't know how long he laid their sick. Again that is if he took ill in the crack house. I have never totally ruled out foul play,but it has never been proven. Well said Molly. Some of David's drug exploits was covered in Tony's book, where Tony also said that despite David's respiratory problems, he was still getting high. Do you remember the part where Tony said David was in the hotel room & was hitting the pipe & the asthma inhaler?? Anybody who's been abusing drugs as along as David was, his body was bound to give out sooner or later. And if it was a 'heart problem', then still, the attack would've been induced by drugs. There's no way around it. Recently, Bill Hatfield of The Righteous Brothers, died as an adverse reaction to cocaine that eventually stopped his heart. David was using crack-cocaine, which is even worst, considering the other chemcial contents included to give the drug it's 'rock' form. Drugs is no joke & if you keep abusing it, your body will detoriate(sp?) from constant usage.
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Post by der68 on Apr 5, 2004 15:32:11 GMT -5
QNew. I believe the official report was he died from complications resulting from a cocaine overdose. Ruffin did have cocaine in his system,I don't think anybody disagree's with that. There was a coroner's report that stated that. As davidfan stated he did have respritory problems from child hood. Since drugs can destroy a heathy,strong body drugs either directly or indirectly contribute to his death. Ruffin had abused drugs for many years,they had to have taken some toll on him. If indeed he did OD that particular night that wasn't the first time he had. Difference is Ruffin had been rescued when he had previous OD's. I think this subject will be discussed as long a David Ruffin's career is dicussed. Because there were so many questions concerning that night. I do not agree that Ruffin's death was not investigated because he was just another "black" entertainer. I do believe drug OD was a obvious cause of death because he was a known addict, and had been one for years. I do question whether the drugs were tainted, or if Ruffin did indeed ingest willingly a massive amount of drugs. Also how much time expired between him feeling ill and his arrival at the emergency room. If reports are true that he was actually in the crack house when he got sick. Common sense tells us that the people in the crack house weren't concerned about his state of health. So we don't know how long he laid their sick. Again that is if he took ill in the crack house. I have never totally ruled out foul play,but it has never been proven. Molly I agree with so many of the statements made here today. I have questions just as you have about that night. I will speak to you privately regarding what I found out in regards to his getting sick at the crack house and why he wasn't taken to the closer of the two hospitials. It's been almost 13 years! Sometimes it seems like it just happened. I believe David's death was from a Over-dose. Whether accidential or deliberate I am not sure of. But anybody that saw David towards the end could see the toll drugs had taken on him. Molly you saw him so you know what I am talking about.
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Post by molly on Apr 5, 2004 15:40:35 GMT -5
Hey der!!!! I know girl. It's hard to believe it's been 13 years. I do agree that Ruffin looked bad the last time I saw him. Not getting ready to drop dead bad,but bad compared to what I knew his appearence to be. Still dressed sharp though and still smiling. der we will talk soon.
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Post by Common on Apr 5, 2004 15:51:14 GMT -5
I can't believe that June 1st will be upon us in a just under 2 months? Man, time sure flies!
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Post by Davidfan on Apr 5, 2004 17:41:21 GMT -5
What I have noticed is that on VH1 the always play the movie around January 16 - about the 23rd (falling on DR b-day) and around may 28 - around june 5th (hitting his death) ... Seems that someone at VH1 is a davidfan ... Lol ... davidfan that me ;D ... Anwho ... one of these years on the 1st I wanna try to get to his grave site and leave flowers or something ... Just once .... ;D
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Post by Drexell on Apr 5, 2004 18:09:20 GMT -5
Thanks Common
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Post by der68 on Apr 5, 2004 18:30:44 GMT -5
What I have noticed is that on VH1 the always play the movie around January 16 - about the 23rd (falling on DR b-day) and around may 28 - around june 5th (hitting his death) ... Seems that someone at VH1 is a davidfan ... Lol ... davidfan that me ;D ... Anwho ... one of these years on the 1st I wanna try to get to his grave site and leave flowers or something ... Just once .... ;D davidfan that may be possibe for you to do. David's gravesite is in a secured part of the cemetary,so it was difficult for fans and friends to visit his gravesite without permission. However I know some people that went there to pay their respects without any permission.
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Post by Davidfan on Apr 6, 2004 15:24:55 GMT -5
davidfan that may be possibe for you to do. David's gravesite is in a secured part of the cemetary,so it was difficult for fans and friends to visit his gravesite without permission. However I know some people that went there to pay their respects without any permission. I know how to jump fences ... I know how to run ... I WILL get in one way or another ... lol ;D
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Post by der68 on Apr 7, 2004 10:39:50 GMT -5
I know how to jump fences ... I know how to run ... I WILL get in one way or another ... lol ;D lmao!!! I know that's right davidfan. If you travel all the way to Detroit you should see his grave site. Holla at me or Reggie. We will get you in. lol!lol! I have never had a problem.
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Post by Common on Apr 7, 2004 10:44:25 GMT -5
lmao!!! I know that's right davidfan. If you travel all the way to Detroit you should see his grave site. Holla at me or Reggie. We will get you in. lol!lol! I have never had a problem. LOL! Davey, you are terrible! LOL!! DF, you should take Davey up on her offer. I've been there & was asked if I wanted to go, but I declined. To me, the whole thing is depressing & it just reminds me own personal tragedy. I would like to remember David the way he was: full of life & promise. BTW, you ain't gonna hook a sista up whenever she hits the Motor City?? ;D ;D ;D ;D
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