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Post by BeesNVMe on Nov 10, 2005 19:41:33 GMT -5
I was just sitting here looking at New Edition performing on BET. People like to compare them to the Tempts. So today's lesson is to compare and contrast the two groups. I see a few similarities...but like I said a few.
Bobby Brown = David Ruffin
Johnny Gill = Dennis Edwards
Ralph Tresvant = Otis Williams
Michael Bivens = Melvin Franklin
Ronnie DeVoe = Eddie Kendricks
Ricky Bell = Paul Williams
I'm probably off on a couple of the guys...but who would you compare each of the Classix to?
Due tomorrow...no exceptions!
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Post by molly on Nov 10, 2005 19:47:16 GMT -5
Bobby Brown = David Ruffin(definitely Ruffin)
Johnny Gill = Dennis Edwards
Ralph Tresvant = Paul Williams
Michael Bivens = Otis Williams
Ronnie DeVoe = Eddie Kendricks
Ricky Bell = Melvin Franklin
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Post by EmergingRuffian on Nov 10, 2005 20:25:03 GMT -5
Is this based on talent or personality?
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Post by BeesNVMe on Nov 10, 2005 22:04:28 GMT -5
ER...don't try to weasel out of the assignment like Molly Compare how you think how they are alike and contrast how they are different. I really can't compare them personality wise cuz I wasn't really that much into New Edition. there's one difference right there. My parents listened to and bought the Tempts music...I did not particularly care for New Edition cuz they sounded too babyfied for my taste. The only song I would buy by them would be Can You Stand The Rain. Otherwise...I bought their music for my daughter. On the other hand...my cousin...who is my age...would use her kids for an excuse to go see NE. She was crazy about them and went to see them everytime they came to Chicago.
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Post by BeesNVMe on Nov 10, 2005 22:09:31 GMT -5
Bobby Brown = David Ruffin(definitely Ruffin) Johnny Gill = Dennis Edwards Ralph Tresvant = Paul Williams Michael Bivens = Otis Williams Ronnie DeVoe = Eddie Kendricks Ricky Bell = Melvin Franklin Molly...I see we agree on Ronnie being like Eddie. But that damn Ralph reminds me of Otis for some reason. It's interesting you chose Bivins to assume the role of O. He does seem to be the boring one of the group...now that I think of it...Ralph does have more personality than O. |
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Post by EmergingRuffian on Nov 10, 2005 23:07:59 GMT -5
ER...don't try to weasel out of the assignment like Molly Compare how you think how they are alike and contrast how they are different. I really can't compare them personality wise cuz I wasn't really that much into New Edition. there's one difference right there. My parents listened to and bought the Tempts music...I did not particularly care for New Edition cuz they sounded too babyfied for my taste. The only song I would buy by them would be Can You Stand The Rain. Otherwise...I bought their music for my daughter. On the other hand...my cousin...who is my age...would use her kids for an excuse to go see NE. She was crazy about them and went to see them everytime they came to Chicago. NE is like the C5 in that there are five members in each group.  Ruffin = Not none of them Edwards = Johnny Gill Paul = Bobby Brown EJK = Ralph Oatass = the rest of them |
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Post by molly on Nov 10, 2005 23:32:14 GMT -5
LOL! Bees I only did part of the assignment.LOL! I was reading too fast. Bobby Brown...I compare to Ruffin because he IMO was the showman of the group. He also wasn't trying to "go along to get along". I always thought BB was the most talented but because of his image they made it Raplh's group. BB was also the most outgoing. The difference between the two is Ruffin was careful in the "early" years to protect his public image. BB showed his natural  (Ruffin did too  but in private) Johnny Gill ..I compare him to Dennis because he came in replacing BB plus he had that power house voice. He appeared to be non confrontational and went along with the status quo. The difference I also thought Johnny was a little "sweet". Ralph Tresvant.....I compare to Paul Williams because he could dance his a$$ OFF! Oh course he was in reality the David Ruffin of the group because he was the lead and the girls loved him!!! I also think that Ralph like Paul was ok being part of a group. The difference I think between the two IMO Ralph really believed it was his group. Michael Bivens .....Bucked Teeth Mike! IMO was like O because he was the least talented of the group. Never sang any leads just kind of hovered in the back ground doing the steps,not really standing out. Difference is Mike could dance and he was smart. What he lacked vocally he more then made up for it in buisness sense. He discovered Boyz To Men (which became bigger then New) also Another Bad Creation. I think he was careful with his money too. Ronnie DeVoe was a cutie just like Eddie. Tall,sharp, he could sing and dance too. The young girls liked him too. Difference with the Tempts David and Eddie were the "real" ladies men. Ronnie was 3rd behind Ralph and Bobby. Ricky Bell....I picked Mel because I never noticed him or Mel much. Difference he was wayyyyy better looking than Mel. |
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Post by der68 on Nov 11, 2005 10:05:56 GMT -5
I think collectively they remind me of the Tempts. Their style,sharp dress, and routines.
Bobbie-Ruffin
Ralph-Eddie
Because they were the 2 most popular
Johnny-Dennis
Ricky-Otis
Ronnie-Paul
Michael-Melvin
((Bees)) grade me on a curve ;D ;D ;D I don't know that much about those youngins. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Queenie on Nov 12, 2005 6:34:19 GMT -5
BEE here is my review...
DER/BB no way..Base upon reports, I heard from members at the Palace, aunts, and uncles when you saw DER in concert you were on your feet. DER sung his behind off while turning flips. I saw BB in concerts when he went solo and the only thing that boy did on stage was hold his private parts...what a turn off.. DER has "it" BB is searching for "it"
Ralph/EJK nope once again I am looking for star quality.. EJK hot damn looks and can sing too..EJK had a stellar solo career when he left the group ensuring his Title in the "Ralph doesn't have shit on me category".
DE/JG this might work. DE/JG replaced a lead singer taking their respected groups to number 1 status. Both voices stood out, when you heard DE sing his voice didn't remind you of DER and same with JG and BB. But I do have a beef with DE singing MYDER's songs.. what the hell was he thinking of.. the man stumble on all the notes in some cases singing like "B" I bet DER was laughing his behind off saying "MF" STFU!
PW/RB... a match! When you hear a Tempt/NE song quite natural you try to identify the lead singer is that tempts (DER,EJK,PW,) ne (BB, RT, RB) your mind tells you it has to be?? But when you see the life performance PW/RB takes the mike you say to yourself dang I didn't know he was the lead singer on that song...
Michael Bivins and Ronnie DeVoe, I am not going to pair them up with Minnie Me and "No talent" because it will be a disgrace to both of the young singers' talentss. IMO, I think Minnie Me has a little sugar under that mustache the man moves like a woman. And No talent.. well the name speaks for itself... 'NO Talent"
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Post by Brandy on Nov 13, 2005 12:17:16 GMT -5
Bobby/Ruffin=both were considered bad boys for their wild ways
Ralph-Eddie
Johnny/Dennis=same scenario he replaced the best entertainer of the group.
That's all I can come up with ;D
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Post by EmergingRuffian on Nov 13, 2005 21:56:59 GMT -5
I watched a very frightening clip of BB and Mike Tyson singing the Monster Mash. The use of the term singing is much to kind cause nare one of those suckers were singing; they were screaming and screeching. I can't imagine Ruffin ever doing that on national television.
If any of you want to see the clip I'll be more than happy to post it.
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Post by runshyt on Jun 10, 2017 16:55:54 GMT -5
Bobby Brown = David Ruffin(definitely Ruffin) Johnny Gill = Dennis Edwards Ralph Tresvant = Paul Williams Michael Bivens = Otis Williams Ronnie DeVoe = Eddie Kendricks Ricky Bell = Melvin Franklin WRONG! Ralph = Eddie Kendrick (sensitive, high voice, girls favorite, pro) Johnny = Dennis Edwards (pure singer, better group member) Mike = Otis (least talented, leader, businessman) Ricky = Paul (drug/alcohol addict, under-appreciated lead singer) Bobby = David Ruffin (talented bad boy, drug user, abusive) Ronnie = Melvin (tall, handsome, unique, good group member) Those are the matchups! |
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Post by runshyt on Jun 10, 2017 17:14:33 GMT -5
BEE here is my review... DER/BB no way..Base upon reports, I heard from members at the Palace, aunts, and uncles when you saw DER in concert you were on your feet. DER sung his behind off while turning flips. I saw BB in concerts when he went solo and the only thing that boy did on stage was hold his private parts...what a turn off.. DER has "it" BB is searching for "it" Ralph/EJK nope once again I am looking for star quality.. EJK hot damn looks and can sing too..EJK had a stellar solo career when he left the group ensuring his Title in the "Ralph doesn't have shit on me category". DE/JG this might work. DE/JG replaced a lead singer taking their respected groups to number 1 status. Both voices stood out, when you heard DE sing his voice didn't remind you of DER and same with JG and BB. But I do have a beef with DE singing MYDER's songs.. what the hell was he thinking of.. the man stumble on all the notes in some cases singing like "B" I bet DER was laughing his behind off saying "MF" STFU! PW/RB... a match! When you hear a Tempt/NE song quite natural you try to identify the lead singer is that tempts (DER,EJK,PW,) ne (BB, RT, RB) your mind tells you it has to be?? But when you see the life performance PW/RB takes the mike you say to yourself dang I didn't know he was the lead singer on that song... Michael Bivins and Ronnie DeVoe, I am not going to pair them up with Minnie Me and "No talent" because it will be a disgrace to both of the young singers' talentss. IMO, I think Minnie Me has a little sugar under that mustache the man moves like a woman. And No talent.. well the name speaks for itself... 'NO Talent" How can anyone equate the tall Melvin Franklin ("Blue) with Ricky, when Ricky = Paul in just about every way?! They were both underappreciated lead singers, both had demons, and both were really bad drug/alcohol addicts. That's as obvious as the Bobby-David Ruffin parallel. Ronnie compares to Melvin, because they were both good singers and dancers, and neither caused any trouble..ever! Also, women loved them almost as much as they did Ralph and Eddie Kindricks, respectively. Lastly, Mike Bivins is clearly Otis. They were considered to be "talented enough", but not pure talents, and they were better businessmen than performers. They kept their groups together - Mike by getting rid of Gary as their manager and getting them paid, and Otis by instilling discipline into the Temptations. I don't know how anyone can miss those. Pairing B-Brown with Ruffin, JG with Dennis and Ralph with Eddie is a no-brainer. Bobby Brown = David Ruffin Ralph Tresvant = Eddie Kendricks Johnny Gill = Dennis Edwards Ricky Bell = Paul Williams Ronnie Devoe = Melvin "Blue" Franklin Mike Bivins = Otis Williams |
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Post by runshyt on Jun 10, 2017 17:26:48 GMT -5
I think collectively they remind me of the Tempts. Their style,sharp dress, and routines. Bobbie-Ruffin Ralph-Eddie Because they were the 2 most popular Johnny-Dennis Ricky-Otis Ronnie-Paul Michael-Melvin ((Bees)) grade me on a curve ;D ;D ;D I don't know that much about those youngins. ;D ;D ;D You are so completely off on Ronnie, Ricky and Mike it doesn't even make sense. You are ignoring obvious physical and performance characteristic, group roles, storylines, and events that make your comparisons ridiculous. Bobby-David (talented bad boys with drug habits) Ralph-Eddie (both girls favs, high voices, sensitive) Johnny-Dennis (pure singers, good group member) Ricky-Paul (short, unsung leads, drugs/alcohol) Ronnie-Melvin (tall, dancer, good background singer) Mike-Otis (good businessmen, average talent) It's crazy how David ruined Tammy Terrell's career and life. She was like the Whitney or the Mary J. Blige of Motown. Bobby contributed to Whitney's problems, as well - although I don't blame him for her choices and behaviors. Paul killed himself over demons nobody even knew he had, and Ricky nearly did the same. The way women reacted to Eddie was the same way they reacted to Ralph: they just melted! It was those voices and their looks. Then there was Eddie ironically befriending the guy he replaced, David Ruffin. Johnny and Bobby became arguably the best pair of friends out of the whole NE group. So that arc is also there. Melvin had the unique base voice, but he could also dance. Ronnie, the tall one in NE, was considered to have one indescribable gift, his dancing, but he could also sing. His background vocals, along with Ralph's background dubs, give NE it's unique sound. The only difference between Mike and Otis was Mike's temper. He grew out of it. |
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Post by chamroo on Jan 5, 2018 19:05:06 GMT -5
I was just sitting here looking at New Edition performing on BET. People like to compare them to the Tempts. So today's lesson is to compare and contrast the two groups. I see a few similarities...but like I said a few. Bobby Brown = David Ruffin Johnny Gill = Dennis Edwards Ralph Tresvant = Otis Williams Michael Bivens = Melvin Franklin Ronnie DeVoe = Eddie Kendricks Ricky Bell = Paul Williams I'm probably off on a couple of the guys...but who would you compare each of the Classix to? Due tomorrow...no exceptions! |
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