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Post by Common on Jul 26, 2006 15:04:59 GMT -5
SL, I don't understand why David's 'pipe' would be lying around in a crackhouse. Could it not be that the pipe was not David's and everyone smoked from the same pipe? It similar to a group of people sharing a joint. This is not unusual at all.
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Post by Common on Jul 26, 2006 15:08:50 GMT -5
(((Common))) Ruffin was still using when I saw him. Ruffin was still using when Davey saw him, Reggie said he could tell Ruffin was still using when he spoke to him via phone,Sandra Ruffin also said Ruffin was still using. You and Bees friend from Philly said Ruffin was still using, genna wrote that even Jimmy said Ruffin was using when he saw him in London a few days before he returned to Philly. I don't know if he over dosed by his own hand or not,but I do know if he was clean,there woud be no reason for him to have been in that so called crack house to begin with. (((Molly))) This part, to me, has been established. All of these people cannot be lying on Ruffin(well for this time, I'll give genna a little credit). The man weighed only 125 lbs when he died. Tony stated clearly that the year before David died, he was extremely sick and thin.
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Post by Common on Jul 26, 2006 15:18:07 GMT -5
(((SL))) What I'm not understanding is that this man was broke & on drugs when he hooked up with said girlfriend. Now, he made some money from touring, she decides to 'bump' him off on the suspicion that he was going to leave her. What also needs to be explained is how is that the said girlfriend would 'wait' to kill the man when she had plenty of opportunity to do so? He was living with her, was he not? Hell, she didn't even have to kill him considering he was still hooked on crack-cocaine. Another thing: how is anyone so 'sure' that he was so-called 'clean'? Anyone who talks with an addict knows that stopping drug usage for short period of time, does not constitute being 'clean'. One last thing and then I'm finished. What does the brother of the deceased singer have to say to all of this? No matter how folks try to dismiss him, it was his brother after all. Common you're making too much sense. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Joyce has said she couldn't continue with David because of his drug use,and he never lived with her Kooky ass,nor did she support him financially. So what makes the two idiots think that DS wouldn't have been happy that David was leaving? She had a hellava lot more going for her than joyce ever did. right here If David was smoking crack, where was his crack pipe?Why doesn't drex ask joyce Where was his crack pipe when he was using with her? I'm sure joyce knows because she stated that he was using when he was with her. I want drex to prove that David was not using in his last days. I want joyce to prove he wasn't using in his last days. They want proof he was using,what proof do they have that he wasn't? I want joyce to explain why she would NOT call David back ,if she believed he was clean when he died? Holes and inconsistancies? David did say he was leaving Philly,but David said many things he didn't follow through with. Ask joyce, drex she knows. He made many promises to Her he did not keep. I want to know when did joyce find out that David was leaving Philly and going to live with Debbie period? Oh I forgot! she read genna's book.I want to know who split the cash too. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Great point you bought up Common, Why hasn't Jimmy joined the crusade to find his brothers murderer.(drex did say murder,didn't she?) Doesn't joyce keep in touch with him? Is he hiding something too? Davey, I try my best to be sensible even when things don't add up. Why don't she simply ask Jimmy Ruffin if his brother was using while he was in London? In Marvin Gaye's book, Marvin explicitly said that London was a fast city where you could get any drug of any kind or any European city for that matter. I have a couple of the last performances of David performing in London and you can see how noticeably skinny he was. And who's to say that David would follow thru with what he said he would do? As I recall in Tony's book, David wanted to move to Florida and take Nedra with him. Whatever became of that?
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Post by Common on Jul 26, 2006 15:21:31 GMT -5
"Lets recap, I offered to pay for polygraph, I have in writing that an employee of the Philadelphia Inquirer agreed to be present at the polygraph(s) if, the folks would submit to a polygraph (not paid for by me) but, administered by a member of law enforcement. My P.O. Box is still the same if they wish to sue me, P.O. Box 2427, Ozark, AL 363361. We can go through the front door or back, it doesnt matter to me. The reason they havent sued is that they do not want the circumstances of David Ruffins death reviewed nor do they want the attention that might occur. Collectively, they do not have a pot to piss in or a bucket to pour it out of. David Ruffin was murdered. Sue me. "Damn all this mighty talk ,yet the same questions are being asked by her,and she hasn't gotten any futher than she was years ago... Polygraphs are not always reliable. Sometimes they're admissible, sometimes they're not. Some people are good liars and could pass a test like that with flying colors. It seems the shift is towards using DNA.
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Post by Brandy on Jul 26, 2006 15:41:17 GMT -5
"Lets recap, I offered to pay for polygraph, I have in writing that an employee of the Philadelphia Inquirer agreed to be present at the polygraph(s) if, the folks would submit to a polygraph (not paid for by me) but, administered by a member of law enforcement. My P.O. Box is still the same if they wish to sue me, P.O. Box 2427, Ozark, AL 363361. We can go through the front door or back, it doesnt matter to me. The reason they havent sued is that they do not want the circumstances of David Ruffins death reviewed nor do they want the attention that might occur. Collectively, they do not have a pot to piss in or a bucket to pour it out of. David Ruffin was murdered. Sue me. "Damn all this mighty talk ,yet the same questions are being asked by her,and she hasn't gotten any futher than she was years ago... Who does she think she fooling?we know she's in Las Vegas, Nevada if anybody want to sue her they want her to get summoned DIRECTLY . nice try at trying to deter folks into thinking she's not afraid. she should be. her ass will end up sitting in prison running around falsely accusing people she don't know and have never met a day in her life. The reason they haven't sued because they don't have time to play with fat people.it's not like they won't sue you. and what will you present newspaper articles..copied posts from a message board..what?! lol@ drex fat ass relying on the inquirer.. a damn tabloid magazine..please get a life trisha.
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Post by der68 on Jul 26, 2006 23:24:20 GMT -5
I don't see what makes people 'fictitious' because they don't know their friends(close or otherwise) friends. I've known my best friend for 20+ years and I don't know all of her 'friends' unless she tells me. Why would Ruffin have to tell his close friends who his friends were or who he hung out with? I don't see why someone would give a blow by blow account of people they hang out with to their close friends. Hell, even our own families don't know everybody with whom we encounter on a daily basis. (((Common)))) drex is once again blowing smoke! There is no one on God's green earth that could possibly know ALL this (fictious "Man" that drex made up this morning) claims to know. If such a person exist(which is doubtful) he is a liar if he told that gullible idoit the things she said to "jody" and the entire internet community. Again she seems to fancy wasting her time with people that have no knowledge of th events surrounding David's death. She seems to attract people that like to Gossip,Lie and Reminisce. If this "man" knows every friend,lover and acquaintance in David's life during his last 5 years,then surely he knows what happened that night or at least the events leading up to that night. Being so knowlegable as she claims, why has it taken HIM 15 years to come forward? AND why did he choose to come forward to a internet detective and not the authorities? Sounds like he was a hanger-oner. This is BS. The only one talking or listening to drex is joyce.
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Post by der68 on Jul 26, 2006 23:49:33 GMT -5
"Lets recap, I offered to pay for polygraph, I have in writing that an employee of the Philadelphia Inquirer agreed to be present at the polygraph(s) if, the folks would submit to a polygraph (not paid for by me) but, administered by a member of law enforcement. Nooooo more recaps Please.fnny: My P.O. Box is still the same if they wish to sue me, P.O. Box 2427, Ozark, AL 363361. Since when are summons served to PO Boxes?? We can go through the front door or back, it doesnt matter to me. Poor old simple ass drex If You are the defendant in a lawsuit. YOU will NOT be asking any questions. YOU will be required to prove the statements made by YOU are true. Innuendo and "GUT" feelings aren't going to get it! Nor will hear say from face-less name-less people,Nor will News paper articles and excerpts from TT book. The reason they havent sued is that they do not want the circumstances of David Ruffins death reviewed nor do they want the attention that might occur. Again a lawsuit bought against YOU for Libel will NOT be an opportunity for YOU to share your newspaper articles and hear say mumbo jumbo theories about David's death. Your one and only reason to be there is to DEFEND against the charges bought against YOU. A review of your "research" is not going to garner any attention from ANYBODY in law enforcement. It hasn't so far. Collectively, they do not have a pot to piss in or a bucket to pour it out of. THE ONLY person that has to have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out is YOU. Obviously you don't have it,otherwise you would be trotting your fat ass to the authorities. Which YOU can't do without being laughed at and kicked the hell out. BTW YOU have the burden of proof. NOBODY else is trying to prove anything. David Ruffin was murdered. Sue me. "Who murdered him? Even an idiot such as yourself knows you can't be sued for stating "David Ruffin was murdered". If it really doesn't matter to you then comply with the request that was made Attach some names to your accusations and I guarantee you will get your wish.PLEASE!!!
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Post by der68 on Jul 26, 2006 23:55:09 GMT -5
Who does she think she fooling?we know she's in Las Vegas, Nevada if anybody want to sue her they want her to get summonedDIRECTLY . nice try at trying to deter folks into thinking she's not afraid. she should be. her ass will end up sitting in prison running around falsely accusing people she don't know and have never met a day in her life.
You know that's the truth baby gurl. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D The reason they havent sued is that they do not want the circumstances of David Ruffins death reviewed nor do they want the attention that might occur. The REASON you haven't been sued is because YOU are too afraid to name the individuals that supposedly did this deed. AGAIN DREX Attach some names to your accusations and I guarantee you will get your wish. (((Drex))) who stole and split the money? (((Drex))) who MURDERED David Ruffin?
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Post by der68 on Jul 26, 2006 23:58:56 GMT -5
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Post by der68 on Jul 27, 2006 0:02:53 GMT -5
"Lets recap, I offered to pay for polygraph, I have in writing that an employee of the Philadelphia Inquirer agreed to be present at the polygraph(s) if, the folks would submit to a polygraph (not paid for by me) but, administered by a member of law enforcement. My P.O. Box is still the same if they wish to sue me, P.O. Box 2427, Ozark, AL 363361. We can go through the front door or back, it doesnt matter to me. The reason they havent sued is that they do not want the circumstances of David Ruffins death reviewed nor do they want the attention that might occur. Collectively, they do not have a pot to piss in or a bucket to pour it out of. David Ruffin was murdered. Sue me. "Damn all this mighty talk ,yet the same questions are being asked by her,and she hasn't gotten any futher than she was years ago... Polygraphs are not always reliable. Sometimes they're admissible, sometimes they're not. Some people are good liars and could pass a test like that with flying colors. It seems the shift is towards using DNA. I bet DREX could pass with flying colors. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ((((DREX)))) Questions? Who murdered David and Who split the money? Who are the guilty parties? and Why hasn't this evidence been turned over to the real authorities? Attach some names to your accusations and I guarantee you will get your wish.
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Post by der68 on Jul 27, 2006 0:31:46 GMT -5
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Post by EmergingRuffian on Jul 27, 2006 0:43:52 GMT -5
I thought I was going to be able to make it through this thread by just posting pictures.
ER sums it up.
Drex you have no case because there is no case. You've spent the last 4 or 5 years pretending to investigate a closed cased. You found an idiot dumber than you to co-sign your idiotic theories. All of you have your own agendas, the least of which is "solving the murder of Ruffin". Drex you've posted your bullshit all over the internet including the A&E webiste and probably others that we are not aware of. No one has taken up your cause except for the other idiot with her own agenda. You found a shriveled up has been Scarlet O'hara wannabe to trumpet your cause not realizing the only reason she has gravitated to you is because she had an alledged fleeting affair with a celebrity and has nothing to show for her time but a stretched cooter, moldy packs of cigarettes and house shoes. She claims that Ruffin was not using around her. That may be true; all that says to me is that Ruffin was not around her that much.
I still believe you are doing all of this for the love of Jr. and to write a book. You have no real interest in Ruffin otherwise this so-called investigation of yours would have been done in private and the findings would have been turned over to the proper authorities.
Now on to Jody, the broke ass Scarlet O'hara wannabe. You are a jealous, vindictive, bitter old hag. Your life has been nothing but one big disappointment. You gave your all to men that did not want you and now that you are in the sunset of your life you are trying to rewrite history. That is why you originally joned this board. You thought you could spend the sunset of your life regaling us Ruffin fans with your daring escapades and stories of love. You did not count on folks that were actually a part of Ruffin's inner circle joining the board. So you were outed for the fraud that you are by folks that actually had a sustained relationship with Ruffin. Now all of a sudden you join Drex, claim that Ruffin was murdered and spend your days posting messages at find a grave. Give me a break.
Both of ya'll need to go somewhere and sit the fuck down. Drex if you want Jr. that badly, pay the man for his services and stop making baseless accusations against members of this board.
ER now returns to bastardizing photographs.
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Post by ruffinlove on Jul 27, 2006 6:57:59 GMT -5
I thought I was going to be able to make it through this thread by just posting pictures. ER sums it up. Drex you have no case because there is no case. You've spent the last 4 or 5 years pretending to investigate a closed cased. You found an idiot dumber than you to co-sign your idiotic theories. All of you have your own agendas, the least of which is "solving the murder of Ruffin". Drex you've posted your bullshit all over the internet including the A&E webiste and probably others that we are not aware of. No one has taken up your cause except for the other idiot with her own agenda. You found a shriveled up has been Scarlet O'hara wannabe to trumpet your cause not realizing the only reason she has gravitated to you is because she had an alledged fleeting affair with a celebrity and has nothing to show for her time but a stretched cooter, moldy packs of cigarettes and house shoes. She claims that Ruffin was not using around her. That may be true; all that says to me is that Ruffin was not around her that much. I still believe you are doing all of this for the love of Jr. and to write a book. You have no real interest in Ruffin otherwise this so-called investigation of yours would have been done in private and the findings would have been turned over to the proper authorities. Now on to Jody, the broke ass Scarlet O'hara wannabe. You are a jealous, vindictive, bitter old hag. Your life has been nothing but one big disappointment. You gave your all to men that did not want you and now that you are in the sunset of your life you are trying to rewrite history. That is why you originally joned this board. You thought you could spend the sunset of your life regaling us Ruffin fans with your daring escapades and stories of love. You did not count on folks that were actually a part of Ruffin's inner circle joining the board. So you were outed for the fraud that you are by folks that actually had a sustained relationship with Ruffin. Now all of a sudden you join Drex, claim that Ruffin was murdered and spend your days posting messages at find a grave. Give me a break. Both of ya'll need to go somewhere and sit the fuck down. Drex if you want Jr. that badly, pay the man for his services and stop making baseless accusations against members of this board. ER now returns to bastardizing photographs. and THATS the bottom line.. this right here is one of my fave lines out of your summarization ER... "You found a shriveled up has been Scarlet O'hara wannabe to trumpet your cause not realizing the only reason she has gravitated to you is because she had an alledged fleeting affair with a celebrity and has nothing to show for her time but a stretched cooter, moldy packs of cigarettes and house shoes."
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Post by Brandy on Jul 27, 2006 10:29:32 GMT -5
Not big bad Drex who*in sarcastic tone* welcomes a lawsuit..not her going private on myspace Der68 I bet you Joyce follow suit because they are very afraid of what would be seen that those idiots tend to run their lips about knowing damn well they don't know wtf they're talking about. they are perfect examples of idiots who talk just to hear themselves talk.
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Post by Brandy on Jul 27, 2006 10:33:02 GMT -5
I thought I was going to be able to make it through this thread by just posting pictures. ER sums it up. Drex you have no case because there is no case. You've spent the last 4 or 5 years pretending to investigate a closed cased. You found an idiot dumber than you to co-sign your idiotic theories. All of you have your own agendas, the least of which is "solving the murder of Ruffin". Drex you've posted your bullshit all over the internet including the A&E webiste and probably others that we are not aware of. No one has taken up your cause except for the other idiot with her own agenda. You found a shriveled up has been Scarlet O'hara wannabe to trumpet your cause not realizing the only reason she has gravitated to you is because she had an alledged fleeting affair with a celebrity and has nothing to show for her time but a stretched cooter, moldy packs of cigarettes and house shoes. She claims that Ruffin was not using around her. That may be true; all that says to me is that Ruffin was not around her that much. I still believe you are doing all of this for the love of Jr. and to write a book. You have no real interest in Ruffin otherwise this so-called investigation of yours would have been done in private and the findings would have been turned over to the proper authorities. Now on to Jody, the broke ass Scarlet O'hara wannabe. You are a jealous, vindictive, bitter old hag. Your life has been nothing but one big disappointment. You gave your all to men that did not want you and now that you are in the sunset of your life you are trying to rewrite history. That is why you originally joned this board. You thought you could spend the sunset of your life regaling us Ruffin fans with your daring escapades and stories of love. You did not count on folks that were actually a part of Ruffin's inner circle joining the board. So you were outed for the fraud that you are by folks that actually had a sustained relationship with Ruffin. Now all of a sudden you join Drex, claim that Ruffin was murdered and spend your days posting messages at find a grave. Give me a break. Both of ya'll need to go somewhere and sit the fuck down. Drex if you want Jr. that badly, pay the man for his services and stop making baseless accusations against members of this board. ER now returns to bastardizing photographs. You killed two idiots with one stone.nuff said ;D ER you should make a photo chop thread of all the classic,funny pics you do
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