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Post by Common one mo time on Dec 3, 2007 22:43:03 GMT -5
If some people are bent out of shape at what Ruffin did, they need to read up on some of the bios on some of those jazz cats. Charles Mingus, the great bass legend, known for his fiery temper, punched his trumpet player in the mouth TWICE! The second time he knocked out the trumpet player's teeth and messed his mouth up to the point that he could not play the trumpet properly again. Miles Davis cussed folks out and beat his wives. Okay? I don't know why some folks think because you enjoy someone's music, you condone their personal behavior. I just thought I throw that out there.
BTW, I just fell in love with John Coltrane and there's no turning back. LOL.
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Post by Duchess on Dec 3, 2007 22:47:50 GMT -5
Me too ;D That's all I'm saying too - WE'LL NEVER REALLY KNOW. Key words "Tony's book". That book is Tony Turner's perception & version of events and not necessarily David's. Bottom line: I'M A FREAKIN' SKEPTIC TO MY CORE! LOL! I got opinions for days, but they're just that - OPINIONS and not necessarily facts. Yeah, Molly, David seemed like hella fun to hang out with (and that's as far as it goes )
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Post by Duchess on Dec 3, 2007 22:52:48 GMT -5
That was VERY well put, ER.
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Post by molly on Dec 4, 2007 0:32:40 GMT -5
I read some of crazyruffin's post ,and for the life of me I don't know wth she's talking about. The blog is about genna's lying ass.yet she post talking about if you want to hate on somebody hate on DR. I ain't hating on Ruffin because of anything he did to Sandra,Tammi (whom I loved) and certainly not genna. I do believe he loved Sandra and Tammi, but hell too many women too much Temptation LOL!LOL! Of course the drug addiction didn't help much either. I don't think any of them had a "dream' relationship with him umm except jody.(at least that's the story she's telling) I don't see how they could LOL! Ruffin was something else. I do love Ruffin and his music,but I wasn't on the recieving end of any ass whoopings. Knowing him as a friend was fun because he was fun. I don't know if he and Sandra fought,but Lawd! knows him and TT did. LOL!LOL! but no matter what went down she was loving her some Ruffin. Molly, thank you. This is why I stay away from some of TT sites because some of them think that Tammi is saint and they use the book about her as evidence of it. LOL. Personally, after I read TT's book, I could not help but feel some underlying sibling rivalry and I really don't believe Ludie knew her sister as well as she thought she did. Even she said that Tammi did not confide in her about the things she went through in her short life, particularly as it pertained to DR. Lawd the book!!!!!! I hope Ludie made some money from it, But when the author says that Tammi was guiding her,to that I say . I don't know why they skirted around Tammi and Ruffins relationship. Didn't they know that's what people were interested in,especially after genna's rendition of it.(moe BS) They were so much alike,it was scary. LOL! Ruffin did some crazy mess,but so did TT. LOL! Tammi didn't see herself as a saint (cause she wasn't,but that's my girl) or a victim. Tammi's death did somethig to Ruffin,I think if genna would be honest she would agree. He changed. I know Ludie was young,but she had to remember something about Tammi and Ruffin. I don't know how Ruffin and Sandra interacted,but on the two occassions I saw her,she sure didn't act like a woman that was scurred of getting her ass beat. Lawd!!!! she wasn't easy!
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Post by molly on Dec 4, 2007 0:36:57 GMT -5
"If genna was as crazy back when she was chasing Ruffin all over Detroit as she is now, I don't blame Ruffin for whooping her ass".
LMAO! (((ER))) you know that aint right! LMAO!
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Post by Brandy on Dec 4, 2007 16:52:08 GMT -5
That blog board is wild and crazy..what messageboard are they speaking of? and I wonder who crazyruffins is...
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Post by Queenie on Dec 4, 2007 17:22:22 GMT -5
E.R. LOL@ but we are consider the crazy ones ;D
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Post by Duchess on Dec 5, 2007 16:48:15 GMT -5
Man, all them b*tches gangin' up on CrazyRuffins has brought back fond memories from my online past ;D. And, no, I am NOT CrazyRuffins lol! But them crazy b*tches just keep proving CR right by getting all bent out of shape by what she's saying. OBSESSIVE fans get all mad and hella bent out of shape lol! Somebody could come up in my FACE and say some crazy stuff about say, Marvin or Paul, and I would just laugh lol! Why do people get SOOO mad when folks bring up negatives about these dudes? That is the sign of a true FANATIC! lol!
And Lord knows I tried not to get involved, but, hell, I'm Duchess (that's what I do's ;D)
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Post by BeesNVMe on Dec 5, 2007 19:10:12 GMT -5
You're good Duchess...I really don't have the strength to get involved! That blog is just like Bebe's kids...it didn't die...it just multiplied! Awww man!
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Post by molly on Dec 5, 2007 21:58:15 GMT -5
I could understand if the argument was about people defending Ruffin,but it's not. Crazyruffin aint said anthing about Ruffin and his craziness,she just keeps asking why don't they talk about both sides. The blog isn't about what Ruffin did to genna or what Ruffin did period. It's about Genna taking his name and trying to pimp his legacy. Hell I wouldn't even dignify her post with a response. Their mistake is to continue to post to her.
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Post by Duchess on Dec 5, 2007 22:29:30 GMT -5
I could understand if the argument was about people defending Ruffin,but it's not. Crazyruffin aint said anthing about Ruffin and his craziness,she just keeps asking why don't they talk about both sides. The blog isn't about what Ruffin did to genna or what Ruffin did period. It's about Genna taking his name and trying to pimp his legacy. Hell I wouldn't even dignify her post with a response. Their mistake is to continue to post to her. I realize it's a blog about Genna, and the bullsh*t she is up to but David plays a part in that bullsh*t! You reap what you sew....David kept messin' with crazy, and now crazy stole his name and is "pimping his legacy" & re-writing his past. It sucks a bit, but David brought that on his self by laying down with that nut. I think that is what CR is trying to say. Granted, she still hasn't given her opinion on the wrong that David has done and she contradicts herself sometimes, but I still understand the heart of her beef.
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Post by ruffinlove on Dec 5, 2007 22:34:38 GMT -5
Well damn why doesn't the person make her or his blog about David and call it a day.What a senseless argument lol. That blog is funny. No matter how you put it those folks are not going to talk about David cause it's simply about Genna and her antics.
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Post by molly on Dec 5, 2007 23:54:42 GMT -5
I could understand if the argument was about people defending Ruffin,but it's not. Crazyruffin aint said anthing about Ruffin and his craziness,she just keeps asking why don't they talk about both sides. The blog isn't about what Ruffin did to genna or what Ruffin did period. It's about Genna taking his name and trying to pimp his legacy. Hell I wouldn't even dignify her post with a response. Their mistake is to continue to post to her. I realize it's a blog about Genna, and the bullsh*t she is up to but David plays a part in that bullsh*t! You reap what you sew....David kept messin' with crazy, and now crazy stole his name and is "pimping his legacy" & re-writing his past. It sucks a bit, but David brought that on his self by laying down with that nut. I think that is what CR is trying to say. Granted, she still hasn't given her opinion on the wrong that David has done and she contradicts herself sometimes, but I still understand the heart of her beef. I bet Ruffin regreted that damn invite to Detroit he extended to that bytch a million times...LOL!LOL! He had to know her ass was a "fatal attraction" when she jumped her ass on that bus. But that aside,just aout everybody has messed with somebody that seemed to be cool in the begiining and then found out they was crazy as hell. I know I did a couple of times . But that didn't give them to right to try to steal my idenity. LOL! I think Ruffin thought he could beat the stalker outta Genna,but she fooled him. He couldn't beat her ass away from him. LOL! When I went to the TT board,and saw how crazy those folks were,I didn't try to change their opinions,and I knew Tammi. I just didn't post there. I don't know why it's so important for CR to try to change anybody's mind.
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Post by molly on Dec 5, 2007 23:56:32 GMT -5
Well damn why doesn't the person make her or his blog about David and call it a day.What a senseless argument lol. That blog is funny. No matter how you put it those folks are not going to talk about David cause it's simply about Genna and her antics. It is funny as hell..LOL! I see Carlton has started posting LOL!LOL! Now that cat cracks me up! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by BroMan on Dec 6, 2007 1:14:49 GMT -5
I done had sum krazy womens muyselve! ;D ;D ;D ;D I dint beet dem,butta I sho wonted tu. Mr.Ruffin wuz ah P.I.M.P. yu kantz blame ah brotha foe dewin whut comes natruel Now kan yu? Womens needs tu recognize a reel playa whin dey sea one. Iffen yu dunt noe da rulz den dunt play da game. How ya gonna blame ah man cos hiz lovin iz mech two strong? Yu kant! Iffen yu kant stans da heet git da hell outta da kitchon! ;D ;D
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