molly
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Jan 16, 2008 22:30:40 GMT -5
Post by molly on Jan 16, 2008 22:30:40 GMT -5
Barack Hussein Obama is a muslim. You really want a muslim to run this country? He is not black, period. His mother is white, he went to a "muslim" school in Jakarta. Just what this country needs, is Osama Bin Laden's nephew to run the presidency. Sheesh! Better a "muslim" than a damn red neck"Good Ole Boy" Idiot...ie George W..... I don't give a damn if his mother is polka dotted!!!! He's BLACKER than BUSH! or any of the other Presidents 'Black" people have helped put in power. I think Bin Laden's nephew as you call him will do a better job than the fool that's living in the White House now. If you don't think so,talk to some of the family's who had to bury thier kids,husbands,brother,wives,sisters ect in a war that started with a damn lie. OR ask some of the Katrina victims... You can vote for whomever you want. That's your right. BUT maybe you should become more informed about the people you are making statements about...Obama IS NOT a Muslim....but even if he was...A MUSLIM is better than BUSH!
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Jan 16, 2008 22:35:46 GMT -5
Post by molly on Jan 16, 2008 22:35:46 GMT -5
guest2008, I know this site is open to public opinion and you can discuss just about anything your little heart desires. But in my opinion you need to go some where with that mess. Stick to the Facts. What the man (Obama) stands for and how he can help this country, or is this not a concern? Instead of what nationality the man is. Why not have Osama Bin Laden's nephew run the country, IMO he couldn't do any worst than Bush. And just like there are all bad apples in all races and nationality's, all Muslims are not bad. guest2008 get out of the 18th century! Thats not what I'm saying. The Muslim culture has said for many years that the US will suffer, period. What they tell you about what he "stands for" or "how he can help this country" is beyond belief. I agree that anything is better than Bush (I didn't vote for him either) But I'm saying its a sad day in America, when we vote in a muslim for president. I am straight 100% democrat, but I will vote for a republican before I vote for him. Vote Republican guest....but I hope you have plenty of money,because the "Rich" are the "only Americans" the Republicans care about. Ohhh and BTW I also hope you're not Black or any other minority,because the Republicans don't give a damn about them either.
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molly
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Jan 16, 2008 23:20:35 GMT -5
Post by molly on Jan 16, 2008 23:20:35 GMT -5
Barack Hussein Obama is a muslim. You really want a muslim to run this country? He is not black, period. His mother is white, he went to a "muslim" school in Jakarta. Just what this country needs, is Osama Bin Laden's nephew to run the presidency. Sheesh!
ummm I think ALL the candidates that are still in the running have "white" momma's. Last time I watched a debate Barack was the 'blackest" one.
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Jan 17, 2008 1:09:43 GMT -5
Post by der68 on Jan 17, 2008 1:09:43 GMT -5
Barack Hussein Obama is a muslim. You really want a muslim to run this country? He is not black, period. His mother is white, he went to a "muslim" school in Jakarta. Just what this country needs, is Osama Bin Laden's nephew to run the presidency. Sheesh! Everybody should exercise their right to vote,regardless of who they vote for. My only problem with the above statement is OUR people are making a big deal over Obama's "blackness" or lack there of.(BTW He is a man of Color isn't he?) I'm positive if we all took a walk back through our family tree,we would find we're not as Black as we think we are either. Nobody is saying he isn't intelligent enough,or he isn't articulate,or he isn't addressing the issues we face today. But if your only argument is hes a Muslim,Not black,and his mother is white,then you are not making an intelligent argument. Somebody give me a OBAMA button please!
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Jan 17, 2008 1:17:54 GMT -5
Post by der68 on Jan 17, 2008 1:17:54 GMT -5
How about Bob Johnson's ignant statement's ? news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080114/ap_po/clinton_johnson_3If I may,let me quote a Muslim"In those days he was called a "house nigger." And that's what we call him today, because we've still got some house niggers running around here". ~Malcolm X~
My Sentiments exactly Brother Malcolm.
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Jan 17, 2008 11:40:27 GMT -5
Post by guest2008 on Jan 17, 2008 11:40:27 GMT -5
No, I'm by far not rich. Not even middle class, but I am voting for Hillary, hopefully. Hell, Bill Clinton is blacker than Osama. Oops I mean Obama.
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molly
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Jan 17, 2008 12:50:22 GMT -5
Post by molly on Jan 17, 2008 12:50:22 GMT -5
No, I'm by far not rich. Not even middle class, but I am voting for Hillary, hopefully. Hell, Bill Clinton is blacker than Osama. Oops I mean Obama. Good choice! IF she gets the nomination over Obama so will I. But I understand that my vote will be for Hillary (if that happens),cause Bill ain't running! Hell Bill may be "blacker" than a lot of people,but I won't be wasting my vote on Race or Gender.
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Jan 17, 2008 12:59:34 GMT -5
Post by molly on Jan 17, 2008 12:59:34 GMT -5
How about Bob Johnson's ignant statement's ? news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080114/ap_po/clinton_johnson_3If I may,let me quote a Muslim"In those days he was called a "house nigger." And that's what we call him today, because we've still got some house niggers running around here". ~Malcolm X~
My Sentiments exactly Brother Malcolm. It's that "Barrel Of Crabs" mentality! You can certainly support Hillary without bashing a member of your own race. But that's what WE as a people have historically done. So I guess we shouldn't be surprised. Bob Johnson did issue an aplogy letter to Obama. But is he sorry he said it,or is he sorry for all the flack he recieved from it? In Johnson's letter to Obama he wrote, "I'm writing to apologize to you and your family personally for the uncalled-for comments I made at a recent Clinton event. In my zeal to support Senator Clinton, I made some very inappropriate remarks for which I am truly sorry. I hope that you will accept this apology. Good luck on the campaign trail." "In those days he was called a "house nigger." And that's what we call him today, because we've still got some house niggers running around here". ~Malcolm X~
Brother Malcolm spoke the truth! We've got a whole lot of house niggers running around here.
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Jan 17, 2008 17:10:02 GMT -5
Post by Duchess on Jan 17, 2008 17:10:02 GMT -5
Hold on, Der68 & Molly! I don't like the implication that if you are black and aren't for Obama or criticize him you are somehow a "house nigger" or that old crab in the barrel assessment - I don't like that ish at all. I'm black and I don't like Obama, Hillary, Romney, Giuliani, Kusinich, none of them motherf***ers! They are all liars and can't no one person fix all the sh*t in the world anyway! THEY ARE ALL THE SAME! Bush is different because he is the dumbest president we have EVER had (even dumber than Reagan. At least Reagan knew he was an idiot lol). Like I said before, if I wasn't black, I wouldn't even bother voting. But since folks marched and even died to give me that right, I gotta vote! I can't spit on the memory of those folks who sweated and bled to give me that right - I cannot! So I just write in some ridiculous name every time I vote lol! Last election I think I voted for Chuck D? But I don't remember. This year, Bugs Bunny looks like a really good candidate to put my vote behind LOL!!! My mother calls me an idiot and a "cop-out" voter, and she is right! I am copping-out, but I just can't put my vote behind some lying-a$$ motherf***er! I just CAN'T! lol
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Jan 17, 2008 17:55:12 GMT -5
Post by Springtime on Jan 17, 2008 17:55:12 GMT -5
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molly
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Jan 17, 2008 20:01:46 GMT -5
Post by molly on Jan 17, 2008 20:01:46 GMT -5
No duchess,that's not what I'm saying at all. I say vote for who ever you want to, and I think bugs bunny is a good candidate too... I'm refering to the Black folks that are hollering about "what he aint enuff" . One guest poster even said "his momma is white" ..WTF??? Bill's momma was a hippie,but hell Bill was ok with me. JFK's daddy was a boot legger,but hell I aint mad at him. These same Black folk have been voting (IF they even vote) for white people every since they were able to vote. Wasn't no body hollering bout "are they white enuff",even now I don't hear anybody hollering about is Hillary 'woman" enuff. I'm refering to folks like Bob Johnson and Al Sharpton, that get on a world wide stage and run this brother down,because they support Hillary. Shit Sharpton is probably jealous because his 'bid' for a nomination was a damn joke,with Blacks and Whites. You can support Hillary without bashing your own race. It is a Barrel of Crabs....and dem niggas is house niggas!
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Jan 17, 2008 22:57:07 GMT -5
Post by der68 on Jan 17, 2008 22:57:07 GMT -5
Hold on, Der68 & Molly! I don't like the implication that if you are black and aren't for Obama or criticize him you are somehow a "house nigger" or that old crab in the barrel assessment - I don't like that ish at all. On the contrary, I wasn't saying implying that either. I said everybody should vote for whomever the chose. My problem is with the "hes not even black" comments. Even with a "white" mother,I'm sure he was faced with the same bigotry and discrimination as the rest of us "so -called Black enough Blacks. I'm sure when he was being called some of the explitives used against people of color, nobody stopped to think Oh! he has a white mother. It's Ironic how he's not black enough for blacks,but he's plenty black enough for white America. What I want to know is. How black is black enough? As I look at some of the 'self-proclaimed" Black leaders that are prominent on TV now, I can't see any difference in their features and skin color than I do Obama's. Anybody that thinks a vote for Hillary is a vote for Bill,clearly doesn't understand this process. Hillary first has to get the nomination, and if she does I will vote for her. But it won't be to get Bill Clinton back in the white house. It's cool to criticize his policy's,his senate record,even his platform. But to just be popping some BS about him personally,because he dare run for the white house is the actions of a house nigga!
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Jan 18, 2008 0:54:34 GMT -5
Post by SarahLee on Jan 18, 2008 0:54:34 GMT -5
When Blacks are saying another Black is not black or not black enough. I think what they are really saying is He or she is not Ghetto enough. Obama is intelligent,articulate,well groomed and soft spoken. Do we think so little of ourselves that we feel he's not represenative of out race? History is being made in this country via this election. Women and Blacks had to fight for the right to vote. Now we have a woman and a Black man running for the highest office in the land. I think that's exciting. Don't vote for Obama just because he's Black,and don't vote for Hillary because she's a woman or married to a popular former President. Vote for what they claim to stand for. Just turn out and vote period. It's a right many died for. duchess is right,they all lie. I'm going to vote for the one that looks the best while they are lying. ;D
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Jan 18, 2008 10:39:54 GMT -5
Post by guest2008 on Jan 18, 2008 10:39:54 GMT -5
When Blacks are saying another Black is not black or not black enough. I think what they are really saying is He or she is not Ghetto enough. Obama is intelligent,articulate,well groomed and soft spoken. Do we think so little of ourselves that we feel he's not represenative of out race? History is being made in this country via this election. Women and Blacks had to fight for the right to vote. Now we have a woman and a Black man running for the highest office in the land. I think that's exciting. Don't vote for Obama just because he's Black,and don't vote for Hillary because she's a woman or married to a popular former President. Vote for what they claim to stand for. Just turn out and vote period. It's a right many died for. duchess is right,they all lie. I'm going to vote for the one that looks the best while they are lying. ;D I agree with this statement. Just to clarify, I wasn't saying that Obama isn't "black" enough to be president. Not what I was saying at all. What *I* was saying is that he has muslim in his blood, and practiced those muslim ways as a child. WHat I am saying is that I will not vote for him because of that. I don't care how intellegent he seems to be, or how articulate he comes across. Letting someone of that culture, run in our government is political suicide. What I don't get is why is Tom Joyner, Steve Harvey, Michael Baisden popular black folks, accepting Obama into the black category, when he is not black? If anything, more whites are supporting Obama than anything. But I hear people in general, and on the radio saying that they are voting for Obama because he is black. And I am like WTF? Obama isn't black? Thats what I'm saying.
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Jan 18, 2008 11:59:14 GMT -5
Post by guest2008 on Jan 18, 2008 11:59:14 GMT -5
By Shaila Dewan
updated 5:15 a.m. ET, Fri., Jan. 18, 2008 ATLANTA - The People’s Voice African-American Weekly News in tiny Roanoke, Ala., has not endorsed a candidate in the state’s Democratic presidential primary on Feb. 5 — much to the frustration of its publisher, Charlotte A. Clark-Frieson, a Barack Obama supporter.
“I’m trying to get ready to endorse him, but my board is so split,” Ms. Clark-Frieson said.
While letters to the paper are almost unanimously in favor of Mr. Obama, she said, the older of the state’s two black political organizations, the Alabama Democratic Conference, endorsed Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton in October.
So great is the tension over the Democratic contest, Ms. Clark-Frieson said, that many of her newspaper’s board members have refused to betray their preference even in private.
Across the South, a fierce competition is afoot for black voters, who are expected to constitute 20 percent to 50 percent of voters in the South Carolina Democratic primary on Jan. 26 and in the four Southern states with primaries on Feb. 5: Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia and Tennessee. In many counties, registration has spiked since Mr. Obama won the Iowa caucuses, and election officials say interest is at its highest point in several election cycles.
While the official ground game is just beginning, chatter about the two candidates — both of whom have substantial claims to African-American support — is constant on black radio shows and e-mail lists and at barbershops. Officials and ministers are coming forward with last-minute endorsements, and campaigns are buttering up the activity directors at centers for the elderly. Both campaigns have opened or will open offices this week — the Clinton camp in Nashville, the Obama camp in Little Rock, Ark., in Memphis and two each in Alabama and Georgia.
Not a monolithic bloc For several weeks, race has dominated the Democratic contest, prompting a flurry of angry words between the Obama and Clinton camps. That fight appears to have died down, but Southern black voters are still in knots over a contest that pits a woman they know well against a viable black candidate. If any election can prove that Southern blacks are not a monolithic voting bloc, it is this one.
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The competition pits old loyalties against new passions, and traditional kingmakers — many of whom backed Mrs. Clinton months ago — against Mr. Obama’s grass-roots energy. And as the Clinton camp doggedly pursues women, in some cases it is splitting families, like Representative Sanford D. Bishop Jr., co-chairman of the Obama campaign in Georgia, and his wife, Vivian Creighton Bishop, a public official in Columbus, Ga., and a Clinton supporter.
In Atlanta, the race has also split longtime allies in the civil rights movement. The Rev. Joseph E. Lowery has supported Mr. Obama, for instance, while Representative John Lewis has defended Mrs. Clinton against accusations that she and her husband denigrated the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. in an attack on Mr. Obama.
Another prominent Clinton supporter from the civil rights era, Andrew Young, also defended Mrs. Clinton. “Hillary Clinton, first of all, has Bill behind her,” Mr. Young said on a recent Webcast devoted to African-American issues. “And Bill is every bit as black as Barack.”
But a younger generation appears to be embracing Mr. Obama. Raphael G. Warnock, the 38-year-old senior pastor of Dr. King’s home church, Ebenezer Baptist here, gave Mr. Obama the honor of appearing there this coming Sunday, the day before the national King holiday.
Roanoke has long been a stronghold of the Alabama Democratic Conference, which endorsed Mrs. Clinton in part because its members believed that a black man could not be elected. But statewide, the group’s support of Mrs. Clinton may be tested by the Obama campaign’s insurgency.
“This is going to be another one of these watershed events in the black community,” said Hank Sanders, a state senator and former president of the Alabama New South Coalition, a group that has endorsed Mr. Obama.
Gerald W. Johnson, the pollster for the Alabama Education Association, a powerful teachers’ union that has endorsed Mrs. Clinton, said Mr. Obama’s victory in Iowa had demolished Mrs. Clinton’s substantial lead among Democrats in the state. Mr. Johnson predicted that black voters would make up half of the Democratic primary voters, up from the usual 40 percent.
But Ms. Clark-Frieson said she feared that the Obama momentum might not reach Roanoke.
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