molly
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Post by molly on Apr 2, 2005 11:22:03 GMT -5
Everytime I have ever seen him in public...Ruffin minded his manners. Behind closed doors...depending on the situation...was a different story! He knew when to hold and when to fold! LMAO! Bees you know that's the truth. Motown taught Ruffin well. Even when being asked in a interview about being "fired' from The Tempts or anything concerning Motown he was a gentleman in his answers. But Lawd!!!! let something or somebody piss him off in private. LOL!LOL! Ruffin could cuss somebody out and go right on stage like nothing ever happened.
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Post by Queenie on Apr 3, 2005 17:44:12 GMT -5
OK let me play devil's advocate on this one. First I think nothing about this should be put on Jr's shoulders.. he didn't ask for his parents to do anything they did. However .... If Gena wants to change her name to Ruffin it's her business, but she has to realize everyone is going to see through the purpose that appears on the surface. If she wants to sell anything immoral on e-bay it's her business, but she has to realize there are those that are going to disagree with her. If she want's to write about on her life with DER as she remembers it, it's her business, but she has to realize there are those who will not believe it and will attempt to discredit it. But if she does ANY of this in an attempt to provide for her family, then she did what she had to. I don't know Gena, or much about her, I know she danced or sang or something. If in her later years she ended up unmarketable, then maybe she is doing all she knew how to do - survive. Merry what should be place upon Jr. shoulders?...employment?
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Post by BeesNVMe on Apr 3, 2005 18:05:52 GMT -5
Merry, I have issue with your above statement. If your statement held any credence, then I would have to say that it's perfectly alright to rob and steal for survival. Women are left with children to take care of every day. This not mean they are supposed to do whatever they feel like doing for survival. In this society, we have morals and laws. If she felt she had to do something in order to survive, then she should conform to the norm and do what everybody else does...get a job! Only a fool does whatever the hell they like...only a wise person does what he has to do. Again...if Genna wants to eat steak, she should not steal out of someone else's kitchen...she should get a job and buy her own.
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Post by Merry on Apr 4, 2005 15:25:36 GMT -5
Merry what should be place upon Jr. shoulders?...employment? NO silly rabbit!!! Anything that Genna or David did or Genna did or will do in the future.
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Post by Merry on Apr 4, 2005 15:34:57 GMT -5
Merry, I have issue with your above statement. If your statement held any credence, then I would have to say that it's perfectly alright to rob and steal for survival. Women are left with children to take care of every day. This not mean they are supposed to do whatever they feel like doing for survival. In this society, we have morals and laws. If she felt she had to do something in order to survive, then she should conform to the norm and do what everybody else does...get a job! Only a fool does whatever the hell they like...only a wise person does what he has to do. Again...if Genna wants to eat steak, she should not steal out of someone else's kitchen...she should get a job and buy her own. Ms Bees .. That's not what I meant. Just that sometimes you do what you gotta do. I don't agree with selling the stuff on ebay, I also don't agree with some of what I have heard about her book (I haven't read it). I don't know what she is capable of doing these days. But if it came down to stealing or selling an obit on ebay, I guess the ebay would be the lesser of two evils. I guess I am questioning whether she COULD do anything else? Does anyone out there know her? Did she ever have any other marketable skills besides the singing/dancing?
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Post by BeesNVMe on Apr 4, 2005 20:28:49 GMT -5
Merry, still you are implying that she is free to do whatever she feels she has to in order to get by. What makes her think she has a right to steal the man's name and try to make money off of him after he has died just because she has a child by him? I don't understand your logic. Nothing justifies despicable behavior. Would Genna be doing these things if David were alive or would she still be living in obscurity? Therein lies the answer. If she were justified she would have raised some money and used his name while he was still alive; she valued her life...that's why she is doing it now!
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Post by Merry on Apr 5, 2005 15:24:57 GMT -5
Merry, still you are implying that she is free to do whatever she feels she has to in order to get by. What makes her think she has a right to steal the man's name and try to make money off of him after he has died just because she has a child by him? I don't understand your logic. Nothing justifies despicable behavior. Would Genna be doing these things if David were alive or would she still be living in obscurity? Therein lies the answer. If she were justified she would have raised some money and used his name while he was still alive; she valued her life...that's why she is doing it now! I still think you are misunderstanding my point. I don't agree with taking his name after his death AT ALL. I was talking about her choice to sell the obit on ebay (which by the way I don't agree with either).... just pointing out that "IF" she (or anyone) has no other marketable skills I might have more compassion for her decision. Again, I don't know her or anything about her lifestyle before or after David's death. I will have to take your word for it that she was used to a certain lifestyle and is trying to maintain it. If greed is the only catalyst for her choice then no compassion is warranted. However, reading back over this response.... If she has enough skills to figure out how to get the thing on e-bay to begin with, then she is marketable. :bonk: This is me admitting when I am totally wrong and too much of a bleeding heart for my own good!!!
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Post by BeesNVMe on Apr 5, 2005 20:33:04 GMT -5
All I was saying is that if Genna or anybody else has no marketable skills, there are some things that are just not for sale! Everyone has some sort of skill that will allow them to make some kind of living. Some have even resorted to prostitution...at least they use themselves instead of deceased people! As for Genna becoming used to a certain lifestyle...she never had the chance to get used to it. As a matter of fact, she is still trying to get a taste of it!
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Post by Brandy on Apr 5, 2005 20:56:56 GMT -5
There's always a Mcdonald's drive through she can work ;D. selling obituaries on ebay is tacky period. if he was still alive none of this mess would be going on because he would have had lawyers on that issue so fast.
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Common
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Post by Common on Apr 6, 2005 8:03:45 GMT -5
There's always a Mcdonald's drive through she can work ;D. selling obituaries on ebay is tacky period. if he was still alive none of this mess would be going on because he would have had lawyers on that issue so fast. I don't understand what is so wrong with working an honest job, McDonald's or otherwise. No job is degrading. To profit off a dead person, simply because you believe to have some type of entitlement is sheer arrogance and disrespectful. There are plenty of job training programs for people going back into the work force. People want to make excuses for folks who are just plain lazy and want to exploit people for their own greed.
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Post by Brandy on Apr 6, 2005 11:06:06 GMT -5
That's true Hp. it's money no matter what the job is.feeling like they entitled to something they had no part in is ridiculous to say the least.
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molly
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Post by molly on Apr 6, 2005 11:12:56 GMT -5
However, reading back over this response.... If she has enough skills to figure out how to get the thing on e-bay to begin with, then she is marketable. This is me admitting when I am totally wrong and too much of a bleeding heart for my own good!!! LOL!Genna has some "Salemanship" skills.LOL!LOL! And some "Opportunist" skills. You're right merry she is marketable.LOL!LOL!
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Post by BeesNVMe on Apr 6, 2005 13:56:26 GMT -5
There's always a Mcdonald's drive through she can work ;D. selling obituaries on ebay is tacky period. if he was still alive none of this mess would be going on because he would have had lawyers on that issue so fast. Brandy, if he were still here, there would be no need for him to get an attorney. She would not even think of doing such a thing. Nobody ever heard of Genna until Ruffin passed. If he had an inkling, she would try selling him, he would have torn her a new Was Genna trying to make money off of DR while he was alive?
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Post by Queenie on Apr 6, 2005 19:36:57 GMT -5
Brandy, if he were still here, there would be no need for him to get an attorney. She would not even think of doing such a thing. Nobody ever heard of Genna until Ruffin passed. If he had an inkling, she would try selling him, he would have torn her a new Was Genna trying to make money off of DR while he was alive? In other words BEES, DER would've beat that shit out her selling his stuff.. What about Jody Mae? How would he respond Jody talking crazy about their "love affair"... Oh I get it another azz kicking..
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Post by Brandy on Apr 6, 2005 21:01:51 GMT -5
You're right about that.
lol Queen that's a good one ;D ;D
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