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Post by Queenie on Apr 11, 2005 20:12:40 GMT -5
No racist feeling felt about it here, but just one question: Isn't it contradictory to say in very broad terms, that a woman of color will not allow him to make a fool out of her, but in the same board we talk about "Baby Mama"?. It is true in any race that some get stepped on, some make piss-poor decisions, and some absolutely will not be played. If DER came back in the end, that was his choice. He appears to have been the type to know what he wanted, just when he wanted it, and just made those choices daily. By the way I have noticed a couple different poses of the same person on your avitar... Is that you? Very pretty!! Merry, Merry,,, woman of color doing something stupid like she did taking the "Ruffin" name..when the man is 6 feet under... running around with a married man....have more to say but I am tired.... Merry who was he coming back to Genna? You have to be kidding... Genna.. LMAO... |
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Post by Brandy on Apr 12, 2005 15:12:04 GMT -5
No racist feeling felt about it here, but just one question: Isn't it contradictory to say in very broad terms, that a woman of color will not allow him to make a fool out of her, but in the same board we talk about "Baby Mama"?. It is true in any race that some get stepped on, some make piss-poor decisions, and some absolutely will not be played. If DER came back in the end, that was his choice. He appears to have been the type to know what he wanted, just when he wanted it, and just made those choices daily. By the way I have noticed a couple different poses of the same person on your avitar... Is that you? Very pretty!!
Yeah,some do get stepped on but you have to step back and look at the situation as it really is..he or she is doing all this to you but you think it's love and they don't think so you're being played for a dummy.
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Post by Merry on Apr 12, 2005 16:30:45 GMT -5
Merry who was he coming back to Genna? You have to be kidding... Genna.. LMAO... No silly... that was her statement about coming back. I was commenting on it. |
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Post by Merry on Apr 12, 2005 16:31:58 GMT -5
[Just my avatar representer [/color][/quote] Good choice! |
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Post by molly on Apr 12, 2005 23:01:17 GMT -5
What a shame. Had anyone here talked to DER during the pregnancy time or just after, about his thought on the situation? If he were riding around "On Cloud 9" while she was at the clinic, that leaves alot open ... Did he know the baby was his during the pregnancy? Or did a paternity test confirm it later? At some point, he acknowledged DERJR (thank God for the child's sake), or he wouldn't have had anything to do with him. I know this is a "Celebrity's" life and it is therefore open for most discussion, but if any of you believe it is hateful or harmful to DERJR or the girls, to continue then I will withdraw my question. Ruffin knew (as much as any man knows) the baby Genna was carrying was his. To my knowledge there was never a paternity test. |
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Post by Merry on Apr 14, 2005 16:04:35 GMT -5
Ruffin knew (as much as any man knows) the baby Genna was carrying was his. To my knowledge there was never a paternity test. That speaks alot about DER. If he accepted DERJR as his own without a test. What a wonderful thing for the child to never feel questioned. |
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Post by molly on Apr 14, 2005 23:00:28 GMT -5
That speaks alot about DER. If he accepted DERJR as his own without a test. What a wonderful thing for the child to never feel questioned. Why wouldn't he merry? Genna wasn't crazy enough to try to put another mans baby on him. He accepted that the child was his but claiming a kid and being a father to a kid are two different things. |
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Post by Merry on Apr 18, 2005 12:57:00 GMT -5
Why wouldn't he merry? Genna wasn't crazy enough to try to put another mans baby on him. He accepted that the child was his but claiming a kid and being a father to a kid are two different things. Crazy but not that Crazy??? LOL... I thought DER did try to be a father to DERJR... He must have at some point, he had him on tour with him. |
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Post by EmergingRuffian on Apr 18, 2005 19:03:57 GMT -5
Crazy but not that Crazy??? LOL... I thought DER did try to be a father to DERJR... He must have at some point, he had him on tour with him. He was on tour with DER but DER fired him. |
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Post by der68 on Apr 19, 2005 6:50:34 GMT -5
David loved Jr. I don't doubt that one bit. He loved all of his children. He loved children period. I don't have any personal knowledge of how he treated his son in the early years. I'll have to take Genna's word for it, since she is his mother. She didn't paint a picture of a nurturing relationship between the two of them. Sad as it was (according to her written word),and as much as I would like to believe that he was a good father to Jr.,we can't rewrite history. All I can say is there is not a man born of woman that would have mistreated my child in the way she described. A parent's responsibilty is to their child. To do that your child has to come first. Before any man,or relationship or even yourself. I don't get that from reading Genna's book. IMO it speaks volumes about the type of parents they were. IF what she wrote was true. Didn't someone post on this board,or maybe it was in a email,or maybe it was repeated to me,I can't remember. That David had asked another woman(who shall remain nameless forever:   ) to take Jr. into her home because he didn't think Genna was caring for him properly? So if this story is true then it does show him as a caring,and loving father. Who knows who was the bad parent? merry you should read her book. Because if she is to be believed then David was defintely not a good father to his son. |
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Post by der68 on Apr 19, 2005 6:56:51 GMT -5
No silly... that was her statement about coming back. I was commenting on it. I never heard this one. When did Genna say David was coming back to her? What I recall her writting was he was going back to Debbie Rhone. |
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Post by Merry on Apr 19, 2005 16:46:39 GMT -5
I never heard this one. When did Genna say David was coming back to her? What I recall her writting was he was going back to Debbie Rhone. I'm not real sure what happened with that one. I think QN got confused on who/what we were talking about. It was never about going back to Genna. Heck (to be polite) Now I'm confused. |
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Post by EmergingRuffian on Apr 19, 2005 18:28:56 GMT -5
Sometimes I think it is easier for a man to form a lasting bond with the child if the man has a positive, nurturing, respectful relationship with the mother. Even if the two parents are no longer together, as long as those three elements are present the man should be able to form that lasting bond. I also believe that if a woman has born a child for all the wrong reasons then spends the next umpteen years pursuing a relationship that the man neither wants or desires is usually disastrous for the child. But then again, who asked for my opinion!
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Post by SarahLee on Apr 20, 2005 7:48:26 GMT -5
Sometimes I think it is easier for a man to form a lasting bond with the child if the man has a positive, nurturing, respectful relationship with the mother. Even if the two parents are no longer together, as long as those three elements are present the man should be able to form that lasting bond. I also believe that if a woman has born a child for all the wrong reasons then spends the next umpteen years pursuing a relationship that the man neither wants or desires is usually disastrous for the child. But then again, who asked for my opinion! Very good opinion. ;D ;D |
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Post by SarahLee on Apr 20, 2005 7:50:00 GMT -5
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) to take Jr. into her home because he didn't think Genna was caring for him properly? So if this story is true then it does show him as a caring,and loving father. Who knows who was the bad parent?