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Post by Queenie on Apr 14, 2004 13:03:38 GMT -5
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For the 900 hundred time I am looking at Leads of Temptation Video and yes I have some question about the inception of the tape..
At the end of the movie, Mary (I think that is her name) talks about the Motown family. Can someone answer the question where were they at hiding??? Why more acts did not get involved in the documentary. I know they were not on the road because I have heard any new music from them.
Don't get me wrong I really appreciate the few participate in the documentary. However, I was wishing an out pour of celebrities such as: The Four Tops, The Miracles including Smokey Robinson, The Contours and the rest of the early Motown acts.
Yes, I mad Smokey Robinson was a no show because even though he wrote the song David bought it to life. In other words, when you hear My Girl no one is saying Smokey Robinson was the bomb!!!
I don't how we (Motown Acts) can eat dirt together but when I need you to celebrate their accomplishments everyone eyes are close.
Don't get me wrong, I am glad dramatics and little jr were singing David’s songs. (In my opinion terrible gesture). I love to see the people who idolized the men. Everyone wants to be a David, Eddie and Dennis but none of them show up when it counted.
Looking at the video seems to me David, Eddie and Dennis shared their documentary to the Motown family (Mary, Stevie and the Dramatics)
BTW, I will not say anything about O's boys because just because....
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Post by der68 on Apr 14, 2004 14:42:24 GMT -5
I don't know why Smokey wasn't on that particular documentary. Q. Don't be mad at Smokey. ;D ;D ;DBecause he has on many occassions in many interviews spoken of David in glowing terms. Smokey wrote "My Girl" just for David's voice. Because he knew David was too talented to be just a back up singer. So Smokey wanted David's talent to be show cased. He knew David had "IT" {Smokey's words}.
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Post by Davidfan on Apr 14, 2004 15:10:22 GMT -5
I don't know why Smokey wasn't on that particular documentary. Q. Don't be mad at Smokey. ;D ;D ;DBecause he has on many occassions in many interviews spoken of David in glowing terms. Smokey wrote "My Girl" just for David's voice. Because he knew David was too talented to be just a back up singer. So Smokey wanted David's talent to be show cased. He knew David had "IT" {Smokey's words}. Everyone Knew david had what it took ... and smokey gave him that lil shove in the right direction ;D |
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Post by Queenie on Apr 14, 2004 18:49:44 GMT -5
I don't know why Smokey wasn't on that particular documentary. Q. Don't be mad at Smokey. ;D ;D ;DBecause he has on many occassions in many interviews spoken of David in glowing terms. Smokey wrote "My Girl" just for David's voice. Because he knew David was too talented to be just a back up singer. So Smokey wanted David's talent to be show cased. He knew David had "IT" {Smokey's words}. Okay, der68 Smokey is forgiven.. but what about the other people at Motown?? I have a little beef (Motown) them where was the love for my boy.. |
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Post by Davidfan on Apr 14, 2004 18:51:34 GMT -5
Yeah there coulda been a whole GRIP FULL of people there to support david ... as he was a HUGE part of Motown ;D
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Post by BeesNVMe on Apr 14, 2004 20:42:30 GMT -5
I know someone will correct me if I'm wrong...but DER and EJK were footing the bill for this production and were on a limited budget. Then DER passed before the documentary was completed. Personally, I'm glad the focus was on David, Eddie, and Dennis. To me, it gave a clearer perspective...but I'm just selfish like that.  |
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Post by Davidfan on Apr 14, 2004 20:54:13 GMT -5
I know someone will correct me if I'm wrong...but DER and EJK were footing the bill for this production and were on a limited budget. Then DER passed before the documentary was completed. Personally, I'm glad the focus was on David, Eddie, and Dennis. To me, it gave a clearer perspective...but I'm just selfish like that. I don't consider it selfish ... It is a point we rarley see from ... and it is something we all love ... ;D |
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Post by molly on Apr 14, 2004 20:58:36 GMT -5
Bees you're right on both counts. I liked that the main focus was on Ruffin,Eddie and Dennis. Plus like you said "money " was a consideration. QNew. Please don't be mad with Smokey. I love him. And he is responsible for writing the song that put our boy in the spot light!  |
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Post by Davidfan on Apr 14, 2004 21:02:00 GMT -5
Bees you're right on both counts. I liked that the main focus was on Ruffin and Eddie. Plus like you said "money " was a consideration. QNew. Please don't be mad with Smokey. I love him. And he is responsible for writing the song that put our boy in the spot light! And what a huge spot light it became ... so many hits ... and alot of them smokey hits ... I wonder why he gave them away .. Maybe eddie was right: Reporter: Do you think Smokey was very generous with giving all these songs to you? Eddie: I think he knew they were good, and that we could preform them better. So EJK might have been on the right track |
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Post by Queenie on Apr 15, 2004 7:47:46 GMT -5
I know someone will correct me if I'm wrong...but DER and EJK were footing the bill for this production and were on a limited budget. Then DER passed before the documentary was completed. Personally, I'm glad the focus was on David, Eddie, and Dennis. To me, it gave a clearer perspective...but I'm just selfish like that. Gosh, DER and EJK were footing the bill. I did not know that I guess they want to tell their story about what really happen... double WOW.. DER and EJK if you are listening thanks I lOVE YOU... |
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Post by molly on Apr 15, 2004 10:46:12 GMT -5
And what a huge spot light it became ... so many hits ... and alot of them smokey hits ... I wonder why he gave them away .. Maybe eddie was right: Reporter: Do you think Smokey was very generous with giving all these songs to you? Eddie: I think he knew they were good, and that we could preform them better. So EJK might have been on the right track Hey davidfan! In the case of "My Girl" Smokey had promised Ruffin that he was going to write a song just for him. Ruffin didn't think My Girl would hit like it did. O of course after the fact,said in a interview he "Knew" My Girl was gonna be a "smash". After that Smokey continued to write songs with Ruffins voice in mind. Maybe that's why O was so jealous. When Ruffin joined the group he was a back ground singer right along with O. Eddie did most of the leads and Paul did some. Smokey started writing songs with Ruffin in mind,and that's what gave him most of the leads. Maybe O thought Smokey could have done that for him.  I don't think ANY song writer could have made O a star. because his vocals were er um lets just say lacking. |
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Post by Queenie on Apr 15, 2004 11:12:16 GMT -5
O always mention stuff 'after the fact' the man knows how to get under my skin...
Too be honest Mrs. Molly, I think it was a lot of jealous within the ranks of the Tempts and that where the trouble begin. No one is going to make me believe David was caused of the demise of the group. Everyone of them had their share of problems, even the non functional members.
David's voice sold records BG and writers knew it and that is reason why BG was not going to let him go. David talent OMG was a treasure.
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Post by molly on Apr 15, 2004 13:15:25 GMT -5
O always mention stuff 'after the fact' the man knows how to get under my skin... Too be honest Mrs. Molly, I think it was a lot of jealous within the ranks of the Tempts and that where the trouble begin. No one is going to make me believe David was caused of the demise of the group. Everyone of them had their share of problems, even the non functional members. David's voice sold records BG and writers knew it and that is reason why BG was not going to let him go. David talent OMG was a treasure. I agree 100 per cent QNew. O was jealous of Ruffin and Eddie's talent. And you're right all the members had issues. I will always believe O's jealousy of Ruffin went deeper than "professional". I think O envied Ruffin because he would {Otis} have loved to have the style,personality,and charisma of Ruffin. I think O wanted to be more like Ruffin. |
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Post by Queenie on Apr 15, 2004 13:58:42 GMT -5
I agree 100 per cent QNew. O was jealous of Ruffin and Eddie's talent. And you're right all the members had issues. I will always believe O's jealousy of Ruffin went deeper than "professional". I think O envied Ruffin because he would {Otis} have loved to have the style,personality,and charisma of Ruffin. I think O wanted to be more like Ruffin. Yea, jealousy is the reason the group broke up not the other issues.. Reason being if everyone in the group respect each other , the members taken their issues to barry and got what they wanted. Barry played upon the jealousy act and kept the members at that poor salary. |
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Post by Davidfan on Apr 15, 2004 14:55:31 GMT -5
O always mention stuff 'after the fact' the man knows how to get under my skin... Too be honest Mrs. Molly, I think it was a lot of jealous within the ranks of the Tempts and that where the trouble begin. No one is going to make me believe David was caused of the demise of the group. Everyone of them had their share of problems, even the non functional members. David's voice sold records BG and writers knew it and that is reason why BG was not going to let him go. David talent OMG was a treasure. I think that Paul ... Eddie ... And David ... Got along fine ... Y'all know I like Melvin ... but he was a lil quiet ... and It's the quiet ones to watch (not true cause if you are at a bar and there is a guy reading a book ((Quiet guy)) and a guy slaming a machette on the bar yelling "I'm kill the next person who p!sses me off!" ... who you gonna watch?) and Otis ... i think O was the problem ... lol ;D |
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