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Post by SarahLee on Oct 5, 2005 7:32:19 GMT -5
Thing's that make you go umm! Some of that money did belong to Eddie didn't it? Nobody's talking about Eddie's children getting anything,are they? And Dennis SarahLee..... I wonder did EJK's and Dennis's children hire an investigator find out what happen to the 40 GEE?? ;D ;D ;D ;DNo Queenie they didn't. Truth be told niether did David Ruffin's children. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by SarahLee on Oct 5, 2005 7:34:20 GMT -5
Tell the truth Brandy. The proof is in the $$Royalties$$[/b] I have heard from people that Eddie's son does have talent! [/quote] SarahLee does Eddie's son sings like EJK? [/quote] From what I have heard,he doesn't. But he has some pipes.
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Post by SarahLee on Oct 5, 2005 7:37:13 GMT -5
Well, I think we may have to wait a little longer to find out about Paul Kendrick's talents. Hopefully, we may be blessed with the other Tempts' babies' talents. Wouldn't it be great if he and Mone hooked up for a duet? ;D ;DNow we all know girly can blow.
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Post by Common on Oct 5, 2005 7:38:32 GMT -5
Well, I think we may have to wait a little longer to find out about Paul Kendrick's talents. Hopefully, we may be blessed with the other Tempts' babies' talents. Wouldn't it be great if he and Mone hooked up for a duet? ;D ;DNow we all know girly can blow. Stranger things have happened, SarahLee. Check out the club.
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Post by SarahLee on Oct 5, 2005 7:44:46 GMT -5
;D ;D ;D(((( )))))) (((( )))))) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;DMADE YOU LQQK ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D NEED I REPEAT The proof is in the $$Royalties$$ [/b][/CENTER]
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Post by SarahLee on Oct 5, 2005 7:54:03 GMT -5
Wouldn't it be great if he and Mone hooked up for a duet? ;D ;DNow we all know girly can blow. Stranger things have happened, SarahLee. Check out the club. Thanks HP
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Post by Common on Oct 5, 2005 8:59:01 GMT -5
Stranger things have happened, SarahLee. Check out the club. Thanks HP You're welcome, SL.
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Post by Common on Oct 5, 2005 9:48:28 GMT -5
Anybody who LOVES and is knowledgable about Soul/R&B music, can discern(snatching Bees' favorite word!) the difference between the good, the bad and the ugly. Just because somebody is 'related' to someone, doesn't mean that they've 'inherited' the talent. Natalie Cole talked about in her book, how difficult it was for her to be in her father's shadow and live up to those expectations. Even though, she had hit records and awards, she still felt inadequate that she would be forever be in her father's shadow. And btw, there were people who thought she couldn't sing either!
So what's the big deal if some folks think that Jr can't sing? He's not the first and he's not the last child of a singer to have comments made about his voice. To me, he's alright but nothing special. As I stated before, maybe singing is not for him BUT perhaps he'd be better off writing & producing someone else. That's how most of the Motown songwriters & producers started off: as SINGERS! It's obvious to me that the singing gig AIN'T WORKIN.
Focus on the music instead of focusing on his lineage. David was very much alive then so why didn't he go to him then and ask for help? How does someone 'discover' their talent AFTER the parent dies? It's either you have or you don't and I would think David would have taken note of it. He did with Mone but at first, he didn't even want his girls in the business. But then according to Mone, she said that her father was willing to help. So that says alot to me. If David was willing to help Mone, why not Jr? Answer that question. Let's deal with facts and reality, instead of 'thinking' what David might have done or said.
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Post by Brandy on Oct 5, 2005 10:03:31 GMT -5
Behave Queenie lol this girl I used to go to school with looked exactly like Gladys too. that paternity on that fellow "Jr"still up in the air lol dude can't sing I don't care how many links to his songs is put out he sound like he got a broken down muffler for a voice. ;D Tell the truth Brandy. The proof is in the $$Royalties$$[/b] I have heard from people that Eddie's son does have talent! [/quote] Exactly SL and it's about time that we hear that talent too
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Post by Brandy on Oct 5, 2005 10:11:18 GMT -5
Anybody who LOVES and is knowledgable about Soul/R&B music, can discern(snatching Bees' favorite word!) the difference between the good, the bad and the ugly. Just because somebody is 'related' to someone, doesn't mean that they've 'inherited' the talent. Natalie Cole talked about in her book, how difficult it was for her to be in her father's shadow and live up to those expectations. Even though, she had hit records and awards, she still felt inadequate that she would be forever be in her father's shadow. And btw, there were people who thought she couldn't sing either! So what's the big deal if some folks think that Jr can't sing? He's not the first and he's not the last child of a singer to have comments made about his voice. To me, he's alright but nothing special. As I stated before, maybe singing is not for him BUT perhaps he'd be better off writing & producing someone else. That's how most of the Motown songwriters & producers started off: as SINGERS! It's obvious to me that the singing gig AIN'T WORKIN. Focus on the music instead of focusing on his lineage. David was very much alive then so why didn't he go to him then and ask for help? How does someone 'discover' their talent AFTER the parent dies? It's either you have or you don't and I would think David would have taken note of it. He did with Mone but at first, he didn't even want his girls in the business. But then according to Mone, she said that her father was willing to help. So that says alot to me. If David was willing to help Mone, why not Jr? Answer that question. Let's deal with facts and reality, instead of 'thinking' what David might have done or said. That's exactly right Hp. alot of kids who try to pursue singing especially if their parent is a famous singer will always be compared to or under their shadow. some make their own way so they can make a name for themselves on their talent alone not on the backs of their famous parent. I don't even have to say no more you broke it down to a science
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Post by Common on Oct 5, 2005 10:26:51 GMT -5
Anybody who LOVES and is knowledgable about Soul/R&B music, can discern(snatching Bees' favorite word!) the difference between the good, the bad and the ugly. Just because somebody is 'related' to someone, doesn't mean that they've 'inherited' the talent. Natalie Cole talked about in her book, how difficult it was for her to be in her father's shadow and live up to those expectations. Even though, she had hit records and awards, she still felt inadequate that she would be forever be in her father's shadow. And btw, there were people who thought she couldn't sing either! So what's the big deal if some folks think that Jr can't sing? He's not the first and he's not the last child of a singer to have comments made about his voice. To me, he's alright but nothing special. As I stated before, maybe singing is not for him BUT perhaps he'd be better off writing & producing someone else. That's how most of the Motown songwriters & producers started off: as SINGERS! It's obvious to me that the singing gig AIN'T WORKIN. Focus on the music instead of focusing on his lineage. David was very much alive then so why didn't he go to him then and ask for help? How does someone 'discover' their talent AFTER the parent dies? It's either you have or you don't and I would think David would have taken note of it. He did with Mone but at first, he didn't even want his girls in the business. But then according to Mone, she said that her father was willing to help. So that says alot to me. If David was willing to help Mone, why not Jr? Answer that question. Let's deal with facts and reality, instead of 'thinking' what David might have done or said. That's exactly right Hp. alot of kids who try to pursue singing especially if their parent is a famous singer will always be compared to or under their shadow. some make their own way so they can make a name for themselves on their talent alone not on the backs of their famous parent. I don't even have to say no more you broke it down to a science Quoting Stevie Wonder: 'What the Fuss'?? I'm sure some folks have already told Jr this to his face, hence why he is not 'large' in the industry as some folks fail to see. Once again, the question is why Daddy didn't help him? When this question is answered, then everything else will make sense.
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Post by SarahLee on Oct 6, 2005 0:38:52 GMT -5
HP! your comments are right on point. What's wrong with having your own opinion? I along with you think Jr.'s voice is ok. That's my opinion and I have the right to express it. There are many successful artist that I think are just ok. Point is Obviously the people in the position to promote him aren't impressed with his talent either. It's one thing to claim to be knowledgable about the music industry,it's another to have the where with all,connections and clout to actually help somebody achieve their dream. I don't care one way or the other if Jr. "get's his break" or not. What happens to him will not affect my life or opinion. HP you asked a very good question,Why didn't David Ruffin help him? or Why didn't any of David Ruffin's friends take him under their wing. Uncle Jimmy is certainly in a position to help the lad. It's sad that most of his Staunch supporters have nothing to offer but lip service. IMO his "stardom" ship has sailed. There is a lot of BS going on that David Ruffin would not appreciate. Things that have nothing to do with Jr.'s struggling singing career or lack there of. What's crazy is some of the people talking never knew the man...while other's didn't know him as well as they would like others to believe.
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Post by Common on Oct 6, 2005 8:03:14 GMT -5
HP! your comments are right on point. What's wrong with having your own opinion? I along with you think Jr.'s voice is ok. That's my opinion and I have the right to express it. There are many successful artist that I think are just ok. Point is Obviously the people in the position to promote him aren't impressed with his talent either. It's one thing to claim to be knowledgable about the music industry,it's another to have the where with all,connections and clout to actually help somebody achieve their dream. I don't care one way or the other if Jr. "get's his break" or not. What happens to him will not affect my life or opinion. HP you asked a very good question,Why didn't David Ruffin help him? or Why didn't any of David Ruffin's friends take him under their wing. Uncle Jimmy is certainly in a position to help the lad. It's sad that most of his Staunch supporters have nothing to offer but lip service. IMO his "stardom" ship has sailed. There is a lot of BS going on that David Ruffin would not appreciate. Things that have nothing to do with Jr.'s struggling singing career or lack there of. What's crazy is some of the people talking never knew the man...while other's didn't know him as well as they would like others to believe. SL, it occurs to me that some folks would have nothing to talk about if they didn't keep 'tabs' on what folks are talking about on this board. That's why I BOT'd that other thread. The deal is that they don't know ANYTHING about black music nor the current state of it. We have classic artists that have a hard time getting a deal, nevermind current artists that have actual raw talent. Mainstream is the way it is because of corporate control of the airwaves. Music execs aim is towards the bottomline, how much an artist can sell. The industry is extremely youth oriented. So does Jr gonna fit into the equation? Jr had the opportunity when he was with Snoop & Dre, some 13 years ago. What happened? Dr. Dre is one of the biggest producers, good or bad, in the music industry. Why is Jr not with him? Talk is cheap. The proof in the sales and how many hits you have. That's the reality of the music industry. How is Jr, at his age, gonna be marketed or worst, who is gonna put up with his attitude? There are singers out there who are subpar yet, it's their personality and demeanor that carries them. Who is gonna put up with someone just because their father was a leader singer of legendary group, some 30+ years ago??? I don't understand those who claim to like Jr, gas his head up with all kinds of fantasies. How come no one is encouraging Jr to go behind the scenes and work on production with other upcoming artists? It seems to me that some folks, with all their words of 'encouragement', if the true be told, don't really have all that faith in Jr as they 'claim' to have. The question that still remains and that NO ONE is answering is why didn't David help out Jr? Answer that.
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Post by Brandy on Oct 6, 2005 10:20:41 GMT -5
HP! your comments are right on point. What's wrong with having your own opinion? I along with you think Jr.'s voice is ok. That's my opinion and I have the right to express it. There are many successful artist that I think are just ok. Point is Obviously the people in the position to promote him aren't impressed with his talent either. It's one thing to claim to be knowledgable about the music industry,it's another to have the where with all,connections and clout to actually help somebody achieve their dream. I don't care one way or the other if Jr. "get's his break" or not. What happens to him will not affect my life or opinion. HP you asked a very good question,Why didn't David Ruffin help him? or Why didn't any of David Ruffin's friends take him under their wing. Uncle Jimmy is certainly in a position to help the lad. It's sad that most of his Staunch supporters have nothing to offer but lip service. IMO his "stardom" ship has sailed. There is a lot of BS going on that David Ruffin would not appreciate. Things that have nothing to do with Jr.'s struggling singing career or lack there of. What's crazy is some of the people talking never knew the man...while other's didn't know him as well as they would like others to believe. Yes all I got to say is he can be the male version of Ashanti and we all know how wretched her voice is. pro tools will work with just about anyone and they too can sound like Luther via computer technology. Dre stuck with Eminem and look how he blew up? if dre or snoop saw potential talent they would have hopped on it but they didn't. the industry is fickle to older artists and he's in his 30's so he might as well hang it up.sad as it is.
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Post by Brandy on Oct 6, 2005 10:26:15 GMT -5
HP! your comments are right on point. What's wrong with having your own opinion? I along with you think Jr.'s voice is ok. That's my opinion and I have the right to express it. There are many successful artist that I think are just ok. Point is Obviously the people in the position to promote him aren't impressed with his talent either. It's one thing to claim to be knowledgable about the music industry,it's another to have the where with all,connections and clout to actually help somebody achieve their dream. I don't care one way or the other if Jr. "get's his break" or not. What happens to him will not affect my life or opinion. HP you asked a very good question,Why didn't David Ruffin help him? or Why didn't any of David Ruffin's friends take him under their wing. Uncle Jimmy is certainly in a position to help the lad. It's sad that most of his Staunch supporters have nothing to offer but lip service. IMO his "stardom" ship has sailed. There is a lot of BS going on that David Ruffin would not appreciate. Things that have nothing to do with Jr.'s struggling singing career or lack there of. What's crazy is some of the people talking never knew the man...while other's didn't know him as well as they would like others to believe. SL, it occurs to me that some folks would have nothing to talk about if they didn't keep 'tabs' on what folks are talking about on this board. That's why I BOT'd that other thread. The deal is that they don't know ANYTHING about black music nor the current state of it. We have classic artists that have a hard time getting a deal, nevermind current artists that have actual raw talent. Mainstream is the way it is because of corporate control of the airwaves. Music execs aim is towards the bottomline, how much an artist can sell. The industry is extremely youth oriented. So does Jr gonna fit into the equation? Jr had the opportunity when he was with Snoop & Dre, some 13 years ago. What happened? Dr. Dre is one of the biggest producers, good or bad, in the music industry. Why is Jr not with him? Talk is cheap. The proof in the sales and how many hits you have. That's the reality of the music industry. How is Jr, at his age, gonna be marketed or worst, who is gonna put up with his attitude? There are singers out there who are subpar yet, it's their personality and demeanor that carries them. Who is gonna put up with someone just because their father was a leader singer of legendary group, some 30+ years ago??? I don't understand those who claim to like Jr, gas his head up with all kinds of fantasies. How come no one is encouraging Jr to go behind the scenes and work on production with other upcoming artists? It seems to me that some folks, with all their words of 'encouragement', if the true be told, don't really have all that faith in Jr as they 'claim' to have. The question that still remains and that NO ONE is answering is why didn't David help out Jr? Answer that. They never do Hp,they never do. they should be giving accolades to this board for giving them something to discuss because Lord knows without this board they're nothing ;D ;D What they should stick to is Perry Como and stop pretending like they know anything about black music or the state of it as you said Hp. it's funny as hell to me how they try and try. If they cared so much about Jr knowing that the industry does not cater to anybody who is 30 and over they would try to get him to focus his attention to where the money really is..that is songwriting and producing.instead they want to give the boy false hopes and kiss his butt to try to gain access to his family just to feel like somebody. which is all around sad.
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