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Post by BeesNVMe on Mar 29, 2010 1:44:30 GMT -5
In view of the fact that Ruffin had not wired the money for 2 weeks...do you think he dipped in Eddie and Dennis' share?
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Post by BeesNVMe on Mar 29, 2010 1:47:54 GMT -5
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Post by Common on Mar 29, 2010 9:15:55 GMT -5
I'll take 'Most Likely' for a 1G Alex! ;D ;D
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Post by molly on Mar 29, 2010 12:51:19 GMT -5
I'll take 'Most Likely' for a 1G Alex! ;D ;D LOL! LOL!LOL!
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Post by Brandy on Mar 29, 2010 14:45:15 GMT -5
putting that much money in the hands of an addict that's like they celebrating their birthday..that's get high money for a long time.
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Post by BeesNVMe on Mar 29, 2010 16:53:50 GMT -5
Now that I think of it...I'm pissed at Eddie and Dennis for leaving him responsible for getting THEIR money! No way in hell...an addict or not... is anyone gonna hold over a couple of dollars for me. I think it might have been too tempting for him and especially IF he was not in a good frame of mind...feeling the need to get away and all. I think the man was under a lot of pressure and just worn out despite having been clean for a while. (reportedly)
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Post by Brandy on Mar 29, 2010 21:29:37 GMT -5
Now that I think of it...I'm pissed at Eddie and Dennis for leaving him responsible for getting THEIR money! No way in hell...an addict or not... is anyone gonna hold over a couple of dollars for me. I think it might have been too tempting for him and especially IF he was not in a good frame of mind...feeling the need to get away and all. I think the man was under a lot of pressure and just worn out despite having been clean for a while. (reportedly) I totally agree, that's like taking a recovering alcoholic to the liquor store with you knowing they not supposed to be there or sending them to the store to get your drink..if they not strong they will relapse. I believe that's what happened with David he relapsed he had the money to buy as much as he wanted. whatever the case that money been spent ain't no getting it back.
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Post by molly on Mar 29, 2010 23:56:48 GMT -5
Having the means and opportunity was just too much of a temptation IMHO. Bees and Common we have discussed this before. I don't know what Eddie and Dennis were thinking. If anybody knew David's struggle,they sure did. TT wrote Dennis and Eddie were worried because they hadn't recieved their money. I think they suspected David was using again too. That drug will make a mother sell her baby! I'm sorry to say that I believe Ruffin was spending the money too.
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Post by Common on Mar 30, 2010 9:40:01 GMT -5
Having the means and opportunity was just too much of a temptation IMHO. Bees and Common we have discussed this before. I don't know what Eddie and Dennis were thinking. If anybody knew David's struggle,they sure did. TT wrote Dennis and Eddie were worried because they hadn't recieved their money. I think they suspected David was using again too. That drug will make a mother sell her baby! I'm sorry to say that I believe Ruffin was spending the money too. Molly, do you remember that Tony mentioned that told him about having a diamond crusted cross? Where did Ruffin have the money to buy that? I mean, nobody is saying that if Ruffin met with foul play that it was okay to take his money. The point that's being made here is that there is no way of knowing exactly how much money Ruffin had on him since it stands to reason, he probably spent most of it. I, too, agree that Eddie & Dennis used poor judgment in giving David the money to cash in the first place. I feel like we are going round and round in a circle, talking about this again. It makes no sense to me and I just think some folks have a hard time dealing with reality.
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Post by molly on Mar 30, 2010 11:20:30 GMT -5
I do remember Tony writting about the cross. That one piece could have been many thousands of dollars. When people with money or celebrities buy jewelry,they don't shop the front of the store,like most of us do. They go to the back where the really good stuff is...lol. and nothing in the back room is cheap even with a "because you're a celebrity" discount. He wasn't shopping at a "kays jewelers" lol!lol! I'm sure. I agree it does feel like we're going in circles. That's because there have always been so many unknowns surrounding his death. We don't know if and how many people "in the street"he owed.Nor do we know if Ruffin borrowed money promising to repay from the Europes earnigs. We don't even know if Ruffin lent anyone any money,or if he had any debts relating to living expenses,like we all do. Nobody lives for free. We do know he was using and drugs sure aint free. And if you're getting high everday,you're definitely spending some money. About 13 grand was his share,and it sounds like a lot of money,but it's not when you're trying to live a celebrity lifestyle.He could have easily blown through his share. I go back and forth on the 'foul play" theory. But I do believe if there was money left,it was taken by somebody. I'm just not convinced he was murdered for that money. I'm not convinced there was any money left for anybody to take.
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Post by BeesNVMe on Mar 30, 2010 12:57:54 GMT -5
I'm not convinced Ruffin was murdered for the money either even tho that was probably the only way they could have gotten the money from him...over his dead body! We all know what happened because we are drawing conclusions from the facts...not something we 'think' or 'feel' happened. I have a friend whose brother was arrested and found hung in his jail cell. The police called it suicide but the family knew damn well they boy didn't commit suicide for being arrested for driving on a suspended license. She had no one to help her prove otherwise...not Operarion Push...NAACP...Johnnie Cochran's firm...nobody...so she ended up investigating herself and just finished writing her book. Everyone knew her brother did not commit suicide but she made her case in print and created awareness. She laid out the facts to support what she felt. If you don't have facts to support your feelings you don't have a case. www.amazon.com/As-Travel-through-Valley-Death/dp/1605943487/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1269971837&sr=1-1-fkmr0
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Post by SarahLee on Mar 30, 2010 13:02:28 GMT -5
It's easier to jump to conclusions,than to discuss something using common sense. I agree with all the points made here. Diane never said David didn't give her any of the money,she said she didn't see the money. I hope she had enough sense to get something from him. I know i would have. David Ruffin was a grown man,MOST grown people have financial obligations,and all addicts struggle with paying bills or paying the drug man. Murrell is quoted as telling Eddie he "saw" the money,but what else was he going to say? He was David's friend,he wasn't about to tell Eddie that David was spending the money. So trying to use that as proof David had the money is beyond ridiculous. David was stalling EK and DE for some reason. For all we know Murrell may have never had the money. There was no reason for him to do so. David took time to fax a contract to Ms.Bowden,you telling me he didn't have time to wire his partners their money? There was no reason for him to hold onto their share of the money.Period. I believe with all my heart David dipped into EK and DE share of the money. I also believe if the remaining money was taken it was either after David was on his way to the hospitial,or after he died. But as some posted,how do we know any money was left?
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Post by SarahLee on Mar 30, 2010 13:08:15 GMT -5
I'm not convinced Ruffin was murdered for the money either even tho that was probably the only way they could have gotten the money from him...over his dead body! We all know what happened because we are drawing conclusions from the facts...not something we 'think' or 'feel' happened. I have a friend whose brother was arrested and found hung in his jail cell. The police called it suicide but the family knew damn well they boy didn't commit suicide for being arrested for driving on a suspended license. She had no one to help her prove otherwise...not Operarion Push...NAACP...Johnnie Cochran's firm...nobody...so she ended up investigating herself and just finished writing her book. Everyone knew her brother did not commit suicide but she made her case in print and created awareness. She laid out the facts to support what she felt. If you don't have facts to support your feelings you don't have a case. www.amazon.com/As-Travel-through-Valley-Death/dp/1605943487/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1269971837&sr=1-1-fkmr0Thanks for that clip. I would love to read her book. And on everything else you said,you're absolutely right.
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Post by BroMan on Apr 1, 2010 13:08:53 GMT -5
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Post by Brandy on Apr 3, 2010 1:08:26 GMT -5
LMAO you ain't lying broman it brought out those who wanted to know more and the true story about the group and it brought out the psychos
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