molly
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Post by molly on Jan 1, 2004 18:28:11 GMT -5
Okay Board It is time for me to move on and find a board that will answer my questions..Detroit..Legal name. I guess I am culprit I started the thread "Open Can Worms". I had no idea it was going to turn into this therefore please accept my apology. The last thing I want to do is to disrupt the community of the board. I will not be posting any more questions. Once again if I had offended anyone with my thread, I am truely sorry that was not my intentions. Of all the Tempts, David has become my favorite. I did not get an opportunity to see him performed in person therefore I have to relie on message board to create the magic for me. Nevertheless, the questions I did asked cause a lot hurt to the loveones of David. Take care Andy, CP, Der, Molly, Common, and Blessed. If I have left anyone out, I am sorry!!! NewDavidFan!!!! Hey New! You had nothing do with this mess. Your question was a good one and we all enjoyed the discussion. I hope you will reconsider leaving the board. Your questions invoke many good discusions,and thats why we are here. I can understand how this confusion is nerve wracking but there are posters on this board that love and respect David Ruffin.This is a great forum for discussion and I hope you will stay.
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Common
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Post by Common on Jan 1, 2004 19:40:11 GMT -5
Okay Board It is time for me to move on and find a board that will answer my questions..Detroit..Legal name. I guess I am culprit I started the thread "Open Can Worms". I had no idea it was going to turn into this therefore please accept my apology. The last thing I want to do is to disrupt the community of the board. I will not be posting any more questions. Once again if I had offended anyone with my thread, I am truely sorry that was not my intentions. Of all the Tempts, David has become my favorite. I did not get an opportunity to see him performed in person therefore I have to relie on message board to create the magic for me. Nevertheless, the questions I did asked cause a lot hurt to the loveones of David. Take care Andy, CP, Der, Molly, Common, and Blessed. If I have left anyone out, I am sorry!!! NewDavidFan!!!! NDF- you are not responsible for the behavior of a one person. I am asking you to stay. Your thread has been started since December & now, because there was a discussion about the book, someone decided to be disruptive. There are other threads on the board that have other subjects about David. Or as you have been doing, just start another, and we are all to happy to respond to them. I enjoy your posts & I find them entertaining. Please do not let one thread or person drive you away. I hope you reconsider.
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Post by Queenie on Jan 1, 2004 19:40:53 GMT -5
Thanks Molly for kind words... I'm Back
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Common
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Post by Common on Jan 1, 2004 19:46:21 GMT -5
Common, this is the only way I can respond to Justy. The same way you do. PLEASE STOP THE INSTIGATION'S! I do not know who this person is! Molly Marge, Why would that get der so out of pocket? I read that, it is the truth. I fortunately did not have to go through this scenario, David had already divorced all of them. Thank you FATHER! If that is the truth, and it was ploy to ingage der, then I must apologize. I saw nothing in those post that would have instigated anything until der posted in responce to Justy, and called everyone a merry ban of idoits. I think it was reply # 50...i REALLY THINK THAT ALL NEED TO STEP BACK AND REREAD...der, I am sorry if I misjudged you. I can only go on what things have been thrown at me in the past... Jody! This is the last time I will respond to you. STOP PARROTING WHAT I SAY!!! I haven't instigated a damn thing. You are the one who told me address DER, WHICH I DID!!! I responded the way I did about justy because it is obvious that this person is back again, fighting YOUR battle!!! That's the point. Now, that's all I have to say to this. You can continue to rant & rave. I stated in the post on the top of this particular thread FOR EVERYONE TO STOP & you chose to KEEP IT GOING!!!! So who is instigating?? I'm not going to allow you or anyone else to drive people off this board because you want to continue this going back & forth AFTER I asked DER NOT to respond to either of you!!!!!! YOU ARE THE ONE WHO NEEDS TO GO BACK & READ THE POSTS BEFORE ACCUSING ME OF INSTIGATING!!!! Now again, you carry on & you will not get another response from me. I'm out!
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Post by Joda on Jan 1, 2004 19:47:22 GMT -5
I agree NDF...This board needs people who love David for David and not the hype...
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Common
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Post by Common on Jan 1, 2004 19:47:37 GMT -5
Thanks Molly for kind words... I'm Back This makes me happy! I will no longer respond to the nonsense in this thread. If you want to continue to discuss genna's book, you are more than welcome to, if you want.
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Post by Joy on Jan 2, 2004 14:21:06 GMT -5
NewDavidFan-
Will you be able to send it to me?
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Post by Queenie on Jan 2, 2004 20:36:18 GMT -5
Blessed I sent you an email
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Post by Joy on Jan 9, 2004 23:46:05 GMT -5
NewDavidFan- THANKS again for sending me the book! You have saved me $5. better yet 10cents To the board: I have read the book and it has confirmed some things, and have left me with questions in other areas. Which I will share with you a little later. To the moderator: Before I go there with my opinions. I just want to say I have tough skin. I don't mind folk telling me were to go. LOL or how they feel about me or my opinion. It will never make me want to leave the board (hint newdavidfan) I think it is good to express your opinions, whether it produces conflict. We are all old enough to be able to handle positive or negative conflicts. If I say something about the family or the book that ticks anyone off. DON'T hesitate in telling me were to go (hell) LOL. It is okay with me, I will just be setting behind this computer laughing. Just be sure to tell me what you think also of the book; and or maybe where you belive I interpreted something wrong. It is the only way I can learn more about David's Life, is through dialog. I am old enough to be most of the members child on this board; as well as old enough to be Ruffin child, in fact during the height of the temptations career, I wasn't even born---the thought of me didn't exist. I just hope the moderator doesn't close the thread, and allow us to resolve any conflicts should any arise. I don't plan to start any problems, but my opinion of the book, may bring out some lurkers. That may...... Just after reading this book I have so many question, and a few comments. That I would like for all especially those that actually knew Ruffin, to elaborate on.
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Common
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Post by Common on Jan 10, 2004 15:47:51 GMT -5
Hey there Blessed! Chile, don't worry about it. I would love to hear what you have to say. We all don't have to be of one mind about anything. Everyone sees things differently. I just happened to state mine strongly but it doesn't mean that I'm intolerable to anyone else's opinion. After, they are opinions & they are neither right nor wrong. So go ahead! I want to read what you have to say. Maybe you may see something that we have not picked up on. And btw, you might be old enough to be my baby sister! LOL! So fire away!
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Post by Administrator on Jan 10, 2004 16:21:13 GMT -5
Blessed, don't worry about differing opinions. Feel free to express yourself; however if an issue does come up, please remember you are at liberty to attack the issue. Please. please, please no personal attacks! We can agree to disagree...ain't gonna be no bloodshed!
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Post by Joy on Jan 10, 2004 18:29:51 GMT -5
Thanks Common, and administrator.
Common I was born in the early seventies.
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Post by Joy on Jan 10, 2004 18:31:26 GMT -5
:eet:
Well I read the book. Interesting. It confirms she did know after at least two months of meeting David that he was married (when his wife confronted her at Motown) My thing is I don't feel sorry at all with anything that happen to her, since she was involved with a married man and KNEW IT. YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! Also she made Sandra out to be a punk and stated that Sandra was abused by Ruffin as well. She did state to Cheryl to “forgive her”, I think that also needed to be told to Sandra more than anything. She had no respect for his kids by referring to them as Nedra n' em. N' em had names too. I took it as if she expected them to except her; they in my opinion didn't have a need too, unless they choice too. She stated that Nedra lived with her and David at some point in time. It is unclear if she was under or over 18, I can't ponder the idea of Sandra allowing her to live with a father with at least a drug problem, let alone, with genna. I do believe because it was known that he had a drug problem. She continues to state events ending with thanks Jimmie. As if to say, I told you so Jimmie, I don't know why she felt she needed to prove something too Jimmie. If Jimmie didn’t like her, then that is his right to feel that way, and she needs to know that men talk to one another, and especially brothers, and they usually will tell each other what they really feel. When a married man is messing around trust me, everything they say and do is a LIE. So he probably like most married men, tell women things they want to her to keep them around. I believe that other women in Ruffins life obviously new there place with a married man, unlike genna, they knew it was not a serious relationship, we get on, move on, and leave is family alone. She didn’t do those things. She kept justifying her actions with; there wasn’t an Oprah during this time. There didn’t need to be one, just a little common sense was all that was needed. She continued to pry in his life with trying to get good with other women in his life to know what was going on. She also in my opinion didn’t know very much about him. She also states that after he died she and her son, went to the vital statistics to see if he ever divorced from Sandra. My point is why didn’t she check vital statistics dept. in 1964 to see if he was married, if she was bothered about messing around with a married man. . If this is the way genna and her child show their love for David Ruffin, than Sandra and her children must hate him (I am being sarcastic here). I can’t believe her son would be playing these silly games with her. THIS IS WHY A BOOK FROM A FAMILY MEMBER IS NEEDED SO MUCH. If this book were to become a movie, it would depict Ruffin, far worse than The Temptations Movie--based on Otis book. From what I got out of the book, not only was she looking for fans of Ruffin to except her, put also his family. With her expectations of the family is concern, I think she has alot of nerve but anyway. She appeared to belittle other women in David's life, too make her self-look good. It only made her look like the fool.
As far as the writing style, I thought it was poorly done. Only because, she kept going back and forth between decades. It would have been better organized in my opinion and easier to read had she started with her life story from beginning to end. For example in one chapter she states that she didn't know he was married and thought he was lying. And then three or four chapters later after discussing events that happen in the mid 70s to 80s she jumps back to the 60s and say when she first came to Detroit she was confronted by his wife. So too me she just confirm that she did know, way before she got pregnant. That sort of thing happens alot throughout the book, switching back and forth between the 60s, 70, 80s and 90s, instead of flowing through each. I don't know if or why the family didn't say anything about this book, maybe because it wasn't worth the time or energy to do so. I also found her thinking to be very disturbing. Especially when she writes about dreams she has had. It makes me wonder how much of this book is the whole truth, or some truths mixed with figments of her imagination.
I will ask some questions later.
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Post by Joda on Jan 10, 2004 22:14:34 GMT -5
Jody! This is the last time I will respond to you. STOP PARROTING WHAT I SAY!!! I haven't instigated a damn thing. You are the one who told me address DER, WHICH I DID!!! I responded the way I did about justy because it is obvious that this person is back again, fighting YOUR battle!!! That's the point. Now, that's all I have to say to this. You can continue to rant & rave. I stated in the post on the top of this particular thread FOR EVERYONE TO STOP & you chose to KEEP IT GOING!!!! So who is instigating?? I'm not going to allow you or anyone else to drive people off this board because you want to continue this going back & forth AFTER I asked DER NOT to respond to either of you!!!!!! YOU ARE THE ONE WHO NEEDS TO GO BACK & READ THE POSTS BEFORE ACCUSING ME OF INSTIGATING!!!! Now again, you carry on & you will not get another response from me. I'm out! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Common, what is this about? I wasn't even't talking to you except the part about Justy? ??You confuse me...
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Post by Capricorn Princess on Jan 10, 2004 23:02:29 GMT -5
Jody, check the date on this thread. This issue is dead. There is nothing more to be said. Everything is kewl now!
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