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Post by BeesNVMe on Jan 10, 2004 23:04:25 GMT -5
Blessed, I have more comments, but I'm kinda breezin thru right now. Will be back latah.
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Post by Joda on Jan 10, 2004 23:44:46 GMT -5
I sent you a private E-mail.
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Post by Queenie on Jan 10, 2004 23:52:21 GMT -5
Blessed - I was more confused about the events in Gena's live than Gena. It is seems to me the lady has some nerve imposing herself in the man's life. Blessed, I did not read the whole manuscript because it did not make any sense to me!! Since you did, what was her point? I stop reading when she found out about David's wife. What Sandra should have done is knocked her groupie behind of that porch. I am not preaching violence but sending her ass to the next century would have done it for me.
I sense when David met Genna he was young probably 23. Imagine being that age and being in the lime light, I bet he thought he was king. Genna saw that latched herself to DR because she enjoys being around a winner.
Through out the book, Genna reminds the reader how many times David lies so damn what!! How do we know she did not lied?? Not once did she mention the goods thing about the man. You mean to tell me she injected herself into his life and nothing good happen. Hell I can say alot of good things about him and I am a fan.
A lot of people who came into David's life were leaches taking what they want they can and moving on (O, BG, and Genna).
If Genna produce a Part II book or a movie, I will not be a part of her audience. I don't mind conversing about David the man but I will not be a part of the hang gang.
<<Blessed>> Yes, I wll leave this site if I feel that I am hurting the board or family members. Like you I want to know about the C5 and that is why I post frequently. However; at what cost. I will not imposed my inquires to a point of disrespecting people. You can say I was raised old school treat people with respect and you will always come on top. Please don't think I am implying you are disrespectful.
Like so many fans, I love me some C5 except two. Read my posts and you can figure it out!!
These men perfect a greatness and I am bless to enjoy it!! And that is something we all can agree!!!
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Post by Common on Jan 11, 2004 0:12:39 GMT -5
Well I read the book. Interesting. It confirms she did know after at least two months of meeting David that he was married (when his wife confronted her at Motown) My thing is I don't feel sorry at all with anything that happen to her, since she was involved with a married man and KNEW IT. YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! Also she made Sandra out to be a punk and stated that Sandra was abused by Ruffin as well. She did state to Cheryl to “forgive her”, I think that also needed to be told to Sandra more than anything. She had no respect for his kids by referring to them as Nedra n' em. N' em had names too. I took it as if she expected them to except her; they in my opinion didn't have a need too, unless they choice too. She stated that Nedra lived with her and David at some point in time. It is unclear if she was under or over 18, I can't ponder the idea of Sandra allowing her to live with a father with at least a drug problem, let alone, with genna. I do believe because it was known that he had a drug problem. She continues to state events ending with thanks Jimmie. As if to say, I told you so Jimmie, I don't know why she felt she needed to prove something too Jimmie. If Jimmie didn’t like her, then that is his right to feel that way, and she needs to know that men talk to one another, and especially brothers, and they usually will tell each other what they really feel. When a married man is messing around trust me, everything they say and do is a LIE. So he probably like most married men, tell women things they want to her to keep them around. I believe that other women in Ruffins life obviously new there place with a married man, unlike genna, they knew it was not a serious relationship, we get on, move on, and leave is family alone. She didn’t do those things. She kept justifying her actions with; there wasn’t an Oprah during this time. There didn’t need to be one, just a little common sense was all that was needed. She continued to pry in his life with trying to get good with other women in his life to know what was going on. She also in my opinion didn’t know very much about him. She also states that after he died she and her son, went to the vital statistics to see if he ever divorced from Sandra. My point is why didn’t she check vital statistics dept. in 1964 to see if he was married, if she was bothered about messing around with a married man. . If this is the way genna and her child show their love for David Ruffin, than Sandra and her children must hate him (I am being sarcastic here). I can’t believe her son would be playing these silly games with her. THIS IS WHY A BOOK FROM A FAMILY MEMBER IS NEEDED SO MUCH. If this book were to become a movie, it would depict Ruffin, far worse than The Temptations Movie--based on Otis book. From what I got out of the book, not only was she looking for fans of Ruffin to except her, put also his family. With her expectations of the family is concern, I think she has alot of nerve but anyway. She appeared to belittle other women in David's life, too make her self-look good. It only made her look like the fool. As far as the writing style, I thought it was poorly done. Only because, she kept going back and forth between decades. It would have been better organized in my opinion and easier to read had she started with her life story from beginning to end. For example in one chapter she states that she didn't know he was married and thought he was lying. And then three or four chapters later after discussing events that happen in the mid 70s to 80s she jumps back to the 60s and say when she first came to Detroit she was confronted by his wife. So too me she just confirm that she did know, way before she got pregnant. That sort of thing happens alot throughout the book, switching back and forth between the 60s, 70, 80s and 90s, instead of flowing through each. I don't know if or why the family didn't say anything about this book, maybe because it wasn't worth the time or energy to do so. I also found her thinking to be very disturbing. Especially when she writes about dreams she has had. It makes me wonder how much of this book is the whole truth, or some truths mixed with figments of her imagination. I will ask some questions later. Blessed, I, too, was extremely confused & after I finished reading her book, I came with the feeling that she thought she was better than David & everyone else be damned. There alot of things in the book that made no sense to me or just seem ridiculous. I am very interested in reading your questions. I knew I had alot of questions myself after I read this 'memoir'.
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Post by Common on Jan 11, 2004 0:15:32 GMT -5
<<Blessed>> Yes, I wll leave this site if I feel that I am hurting the board or family members. Like you I want to know about the C5 and that is why I post frequently. However; at what cost. I will not imposed my inquires to a point of disrespecting people. You can say I was raised old school treat people with respect and you will always come on top. Please don't think I am implying you are disrespectful. Like so many fans, I love me some C5 except two. Read my posts and you can figure it out!! These men perfect a greatness and I am bless to enjoy it!! And that is something we all can agree!!! NDF - It's all good. As the administrator said, as long as everyone respects & understands each other, it's cool.
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Post by molly on Jan 11, 2004 13:08:28 GMT -5
Well I read the book. Interesting. It confirms she did know after at least two months of meeting David that he was married (when his wife confronted her at Motown) My thing is I don't feel sorry at all with anything that happen to her, since she was involved with a married man and KNEW IT. YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! Also she made Sandra out to be a punk and stated that Sandra was abused by Ruffin as well. She did state to Cheryl to “forgive her”, I think that also needed to be told to Sandra more than anything. She had no respect for his kids by referring to them as Nedra n' em. N' em had names too. I took it as if she expected them to except her; they in my opinion didn't have a need too, unless they choice too. She stated that Nedra lived with her and David at some point in time. It is unclear if she was under or over 18, I can't ponder the idea of Sandra allowing her to live with a father with at least a drug problem, let alone, with genna. I do believe because it was known that he had a drug problem. She continues to state events ending with thanks Jimmie. As if to say, I told you so Jimmie, I don't know why she felt she needed to prove something too Jimmie. If Jimmie didn’t like her, then that is his right to feel that way, and she needs to know that men talk to one another, and especially brothers, and they usually will tell each other what they really feel. When a married man is messing around trust me, everything they say and do is a LIE. So he probably like most married men, tell women things they want to her to keep them around. I believe that other women in Ruffins life obviously new there place with a married man, unlike genna, they knew it was not a serious relationship, we get on, move on, and leave is family alone. She didn’t do those things. She kept justifying her actions with; there wasn’t an Oprah during this time. There didn’t need to be one, just a little common sense was all that was needed. She continued to pry in his life with trying to get good with other women in his life to know what was going on. She also in my opinion didn’t know very much about him. She also states that after he died she and her son, went to the vital statistics to see if he ever divorced from Sandra. My point is why didn’t she check vital statistics dept. in 1964 to see if he was married, if she was bothered about messing around with a married man. . If this is the way genna and her child show their love for David Ruffin, than Sandra and her children must hate him (I am being sarcastic here). I can’t believe her son would be playing these silly games with her. THIS IS WHY A BOOK FROM A FAMILY MEMBER IS NEEDED SO MUCH. If this book were to become a movie, it would depict Ruffin, far worse than The Temptations Movie--based on Otis book. From what I got out of the book, not only was she looking for fans of Ruffin to except her, put also his family. With her expectations of the family is concern, I think she has alot of nerve but anyway. She appeared to belittle other women in David's life, too make her self-look good. It only made her look like the fool. As far as the writing style, I thought it was poorly done. Only because, she kept going back and forth between decades. It would have been better organized in my opinion and easier to read had she started with her life story from beginning to end. For example in one chapter she states that she didn't know he was married and thought he was lying. And then three or four chapters later after discussing events that happen in the mid 70s to 80s she jumps back to the 60s and say when she first came to Detroit she was confronted by his wife. So too me she just confirm that she did know, way before she got pregnant. That sort of thing happens alot throughout the book, switching back and forth between the 60s, 70, 80s and 90s, instead of flowing through each. I don't know if or why the family didn't say anything about this book, maybe because it wasn't worth the time or energy to do so. I also found her thinking to be very disturbing. Especially when she writes about dreams she has had. It makes me wonder how much of this book is the whole truth, or some truths mixed with figments of her imagination. I will ask some questions later. Hey Blessed! You are now a memeber of the "WTH was Genna Talking About" club. Genna tries to make the reader believe she was the "best" thing that happened to Ruffin. When I read the book I emailed her about 100 times,cause her book had so many lies in it. Also I was so not interested in her child-hood memories. In regards to Nedra living with "them". David daughters were free to come to HIS house on Parkside or anywhere else he lived. Wasn't no them. That was Ruffin's house. She was in and out,I'm sure but that was never her house. As far as their reltonship was concerned I read nothing that would show a loving and caring on Ruffn's part. I guess he stopped beating her long enough to get her pregnant,then he left her for Tammi. Her use of "slang" got on my nerves,and Ruffin's daugters didn't accept her or respect her. Had she not written this so called "Love" story,the general public would not have even known about her! That was the purpose of her book. She dedicated her life to "running" after a man that abused and mistreated her. She was always "broke" so it's clear Ruffin wasn't supporting her. David and Tammi both were wearing Maxi Matching Mink coats,riding around in Limo's and living like stars. While she {according to her book} was depnding on other's generosity to even eat! That ain't what I call love! I don't know why she was so interested in Ruffin's martial status,since he wasn't trying to marry her. I know Ruffin regreted a lot of his relationships. The one with "genna the stalker" has to rank near the top of that list. Let me stop! Everytime I think about this woman I get mad. Changin her name!!! I ain't never!!!! P.S. Sandra wasn't no Punk! Genna know she was scared of her! Genna's problem like so many others was she wanted to take Sandra's place in Ruffin's life. Well that never happened. Sandra got her last name the "old fashioned way". David GAVE it to her! Her daughter's were born Ruffin's cause their Momma was married to their father!
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Post by molly on Jan 11, 2004 13:38:42 GMT -5
Blessed - I was more confused about the events in Gena's live than Gena. It is seems to me the lady has some nerve imposing herself in the man's life. Blessed, I did not read the whole manuscript because it did not make any sense to me!! Since you did, what was her point? I stop reading when she found out about David's wife. What Sandra should have done is knocked her groupie behind of that porch. I am not preaching violence but sending her ass to the next century would have done it for me. I sense when David met Genna he was young probably 23. Imagine being that age and being in the lime light, I bet he thought he was king. Genna saw that latched herself to DR because she enjoys being around a winner. Through out the book, Genna reminds the reader how many times David lies so damn what!! How do we know she did not lied?? Not once did she mention the goods thing about the man. You mean to tell me she injected herself into his life and nothing good happen. Hell I can say alot of good things about him and I am a fan. A lot of people who came into David's life were leaches taking what they want they can and moving on (O, BG, and Genna). If Genna produce a Part II book or a movie, I will not be a part of her audience. I don't mind conversing about David the man but I will not be a part of the hang gang. <<Blessed>> Yes, I wll leave this site if I feel that I am hurting the board or family members. Like you I want to know about the C5 and that is why I post frequently. However; at what cost. I will not imposed my inquires to a point of disrespecting people. You can say I was raised old school treat people with respect and you will always come on top. Please don't think I am implying you are disrespectful. Like so many fans, I love me some C5 except two. Read my posts and you can figure it out!! These men perfect a greatness and I am bless to enjoy it!! And that is something we all can agree!!! New when David met Genna he was young,and I'm sure he wooed her cause he was a smooth brother. But she didn't write one line that would show any type of committment on his part. Ruffin probably did lie to her,but so what? He lied to Sandra and Tammi too! What makes her think she was so special? I don't believe he lied about being married. I don't believe he lied about living with Tammi. I know he didn't lie about the paternity of his daughters. Ain't gonna be no movie,or a sequel to her book. The truth of the matter is "We don't care" about her recollections. We want to hear from "Credible" sources. Sandra,Jimmy, Hell even Diane. New you add a LOT to ths board,and you have not said anything disrespectul. I enjoy your post and your Many questions . It gives us all something to discuss. And this is a discussion board! Genna's followers have to consist of people that know zero about David Ruffin. "Common-Law Wife" Give me a break! David's fans ain't thinking about Genna!
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Post by Common on Jan 11, 2004 13:58:11 GMT -5
P.S. Sandra wasn't no Punk! Genna know she was scared of her! Genna's problem like so many others was she wanted to take Sandra's place in Ruffin's life. Well that never happened. Sandra got her last name the "old fashioned way". David GAVE it to her! Her daughter's were born Ruffin's cause their Momma was married to their father! Oh yeah, Molly! Ms Sandra is nobody's fool nor punk!!! The wonderful thing about her is that this woman has gone on with her life. Unlike genna, it obvious she is not living in the past. That's what makes the whole thing about genna sad. She is still stuck in the 60s & wants to be validate or treated special because she was with David. That's a sad state affairs, if you ask me!
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Post by molly on Jan 11, 2004 14:33:11 GMT -5
Oh yeah, Molly! Ms Sandra is nobody's fool nor punk!!! The wonderful thing about her is that this woman has gone on with her life. Unlike genna, it obvious she is not living in the past. That's what makes the whole thing about genna sad. She is still stuck in the 60s & wants to be validate or treated special because she was with David. That's a sad state affairs, if you ask me! Pathetic!!!! is the word! genna is LOST in the 60's. If it was as bad as genna said I would want to put that behind me! My point is the only person that could hve validated her was David. It's obvious she didn't get it from him. Sandra was/is comfortable in her role as David's ex-wife and the mother of his children. That's why you don't see her all over the internet. I know this Ruffin got on with his life. He wasn't worrying about who he left behind. My boy was like "Next"!
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Post by Common on Jan 11, 2004 14:42:13 GMT -5
Pathetic!!!! is the word! genna is LOST in the 60's. If it was as bad as genna said I would want to put that behind me! My point is the only person that could hve validated her was David. It's obvious she didn't get it from him. Sandra was/is comfortable in her role as David's ex-wife and the mother of his children. That's why you don't see her all over the internet. I know this Ruffin got on with his life. He wasn't worrying about who he left behind. My boy was like "Next"! True indeed! You'll never see Ms. Sandra scouring the internet. She is very secure as to where she stood with David in his life.
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Post by Joy on Jan 11, 2004 18:37:31 GMT -5
NDF- Don't go anywhere. It will be alright.
Molly, and all- ITS ON! I got so many question lawd, I have to get them all down first, before posting.
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Post by Queenie on Jan 11, 2004 18:46:10 GMT -5
Blessed post those question we will help you. Since I have been hanging around CP, Common, Jody, Molly, Andy, and Der they have taught me how to go neck to neck with the site hackers.
I know little something something...
I need to apply my new skills. right gang. I am tried of beating up on O.. I need some new blood.
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Post by Joy on Jan 11, 2004 18:56:32 GMT -5
LOL, I am writing them now. hold on.
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Post by Queenie on Jan 11, 2004 19:43:13 GMT -5
Blessed what are you writing a book.
Please not another book, I can take it.... :eet:
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Post by Joy on Jan 11, 2004 19:56:11 GMT -5
:eet: Yes I am practically writting a book. I think it will be best if I post the questions in section, do some today, and post the rest later. I have broken them into subjects. LOL yes it is a book. It is called "Our Temptation!" LOLOL
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