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Nov 25, 2003 21:36:59 GMT -5
Post by MB on Nov 25, 2003 21:36:59 GMT -5
MB this is a public forum. It's common knowdlege that David was living with a woman in Philly at the time of his death. I don't know if David's daughtrer's or their mother have ever talked to her. I do know that she has been interviewed. She could probably give information regarding David's last days,but she was not With David when he died. I'm positive that David's daughters and wife Sandra know many details regarding David's death that the public doesn't know. And to date they are not willing to make any of this information public. As much as the public would love to have some of their questions answered,I feel this is the perogative of his family. His daughter's are grown women and they have the ability to look into many matter's regarding their father. My take on this, is simply they haven't to any of our knowledge initiated this action.So I'm of the mind that this is not something that they want to persue. With them having access to more information than anybody else then it leads me to believe that their doubts have been satisfied. This may be a subject that David's family deems personal and private just like his grave site. I have questions as well,but that doesn't give me the right to know the answers. Question Where did you read David wasn't without a woman long? I have never seen that in print. I dont know if it was a direct quote but I got that impression from what I read of that Genna womans book
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Nov 25, 2003 21:40:54 GMT -5
Post by MB on Nov 25, 2003 21:40:54 GMT -5
Hi MB: I did you a favor when you asked, and I'm hoping you will do the same for me. Please tell me the following either on the board or off. 1) Are you Drexell? 2) Have you posted under other names before; which ones?3)Are you Devoted? I appreciate your kindness and thank you in advance.Andy Andy, do you know that woman that wrote that book?
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Nov 25, 2003 22:17:28 GMT -5
Post by Common on Nov 25, 2003 22:17:28 GMT -5
Thank you for the info. I just felt like no one wanted to talk about the man good and bad unless it was some personal thing between someone in this board. If people love or loved him so much, I would think they would want people to know the good about him and not hide the bad. But to argue over some stuff that can not be changed perplexes me. If all the women in David's life, his children, wives, etc had stood together after his death (set aside personal difference), I wonder what could have been accomplished in finding out the truth about his death, marketing his name so that his children would have been taken care of, etc. This point is moot also but I just wonder. His life seems to have been so full of strife and that is not the legacy a talent like that should have left. Look at how Elvis has been marketed. There were some smart people there. There were a lot of women in his life but every grandchild of his for the next 10 generations will live the good life. It makes me mad that David's music was not taken care of. Thank you for letting me have my say. 1) What "stuff" is being argued here? And by whom? 2) Why do you think that David's former lovers & girlfriends, should get themselves involved in something that is basically the responsibility of David's immediate family? Maybe you see nothing wrong with it if you were in that position but you are not. It is the family's decision. As I stated before, David had alot of gossip surrounding him because he let alot of people into his life, especially alot of women. Don't you think that the family, particularly David's first wife & 3 grown daughters, have seen it & dealt with it all, particularly with David's girlfriends & lovers? 3) I agree that David's life has been full of strife which is why this site was put together in the first place. To deal with the good, bad & the ugly. My point is that before people are quick to point fingers & indict people, they should have all their i's dotted & their t's crossed. As in this whole investigation into his death. I've had a heated convo about this in private email with someone & I asked bascially where is the proof to back up what they are saying? Defaming someone is serious business & you better be prepared to back up what you are or want to accuse someone of. I've had this discussion on other boards but what is being asked, I'm not ready to play detective unless I have something solid to say that this is what actually happened. Again, so far, I haven't seen anything substantial to say that something suspicious happened, except more questions. Some of them can't be answered unless you talk to the main person involved, who unfortunately, is dead.
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Nov 25, 2003 22:20:52 GMT -5
Post by Common on Nov 25, 2003 22:20:52 GMT -5
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Nov 25, 2003 22:22:10 GMT -5
Post by der68 on Nov 25, 2003 22:22:10 GMT -5
Andy, do you know that woman that wrote that book? What? You mean you can't find the answer to that question on "drexell's board" lol!lol!lol!
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Nov 25, 2003 22:27:25 GMT -5
Post by Common on Nov 25, 2003 22:27:25 GMT -5
Hello Board. Mb It's unforunate that you judged the posters and content of this board based on a couple of hours over here. You only joined ths board Friday and you have in my opinion contributed to as much "drama over here as anyone. You are correct in your assumptons regarding posters at the Palace knowledge regarding David Ruffin. However I will reinterate what I posted to you before. Your post from the beginning were sarcastic and some of your remarks were very unneccessary. Every person that post here trys to bring something to the discussions regarding David's music. The argument that was raging at the exact time you joined had absolutely Nothing to do with you. However you chose to interject your unsolicited remarks. Your comments weren't consistent with a person joining just to discuss the mans music to me. It was obvious by your first question that you recently became a fan of David Ruffin. And I think that is great. 12 years after his death,he is still attracting fans. I don't know how you came to the conclusion that the posters on this board were uneducated.,because of the argument. When you supposedly an "educated" woman engaged in the same type of behavior. I have re-read the post you made as well as the ones that were made to you,and you were responsible for as many verbal attacks as anyone else on this board. Those post especially made to Common and der. I will not address the comment about "housing projects" because I don't know what you meant by that ignorant statement. I am however, happy that you have found a place where you are comfortable posting. And I must agree with Evita and Common,If you have learned a lot over there,that info was taken from over here. I do agree with you in part regarding David's Legacy. Not so much about the marketing of the name,but his legacy should have been better controlled by his Family. His women? NO! His Daughters,Brother,Wives ect? Absolutely. Those are the people that Knew the true David Ruffin. Now Molly, if I had said this, I would've been accused of being defamatory, berating & everything else under the sun. That's why I know that this personal. Believe that!
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Nov 25, 2003 22:27:30 GMT -5
Post by MB on Nov 25, 2003 22:27:30 GMT -5
1) What "stuff" is being argued here? And by whom? 2) Why do you think that David's former lovers & girlfriends, should get themselves involved in something that is basically the responsibility of David's immediate family? Maybe you see nothing wrong with it if you were in that position but you are not. It is the family's decision. As I stated before, David had alot of gossip surrounding him because he let alot of people into his life, especially alot of women. Don't you think that the family, particularly David's first wife & 3 grown daughters, have seen it & dealt with it all, particularly with David's girlfriends & lovers? 3) I agree that David's life has been full of strife which is why this site was put together in the first place. To deal with the good, bad & the ugly. My point is that before people are quick to point fingers & indict people, they should have all their i's dotted & their t's crossed. As in this whole investigation into his death. I've had a heated convo about this in private email with someone & I asked bascially where is the proof to back up what they are saying? Defaming someone is serious business & you better be prepared to back up what you are or want to accuse someone of. I've had this discussion on other boards but what is being asked, I'm not ready to play detective unless I have something solid to say that this is what actually happened. Again, so far, I haven't seen anything substantial to say that something suspicious happened, except more questions. Some of them can't be answered unless you talk to the main person involved, who unfortunately, is dead. I cant get these quotes right, sorry. Well all I have to go on is the movie, which there seems to be a consensus that DR's death didnt happend as it was portrayed. The rest I have read on the internet and in a book here in there that I read parts of. I just like a good mystery and this is a mystery to me. I just do not understand why the police did not followup on so many things that should have been routine. I guess it would be best to just think on this some more. If it upsets people to talk about it then I should keep my thoughts mine. I do not want to do that. Thinking outloud is not always good.
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Nov 25, 2003 22:30:45 GMT -5
Post by Common on Nov 25, 2003 22:30:45 GMT -5
I cant get these quotes right, sorry. Well all I have to go on is the movie, which there seems to be a consensus that DR's death didnt happend as it was portrayed. The rest I have read on the internet and in a book here in there that I read parts of. I just like a good mystery and this is a mystery to me. I just do not understand why the police did not followup on so many things that should have been routine. I guess it would be best to just think on this some more. If it upsets people to talk about it then I should keep my thoughts mine. I do not want to do that. Thinking outloud is not always good. Interesting. You said there was "arguing" going on here yet you didn't answer whom you were referring to. Okay, this all makes sense to me now.....
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Nov 25, 2003 22:41:46 GMT -5
Post by der68 on Nov 25, 2003 22:41:46 GMT -5
MB oops I mean drexell opps I mean MB.. well who ever you are. Why Don't You Just Mind Your Own Damn Business? Why do you care? You didn't even know that the man didn't write his own songs. drexell knows even less about"Mr". David then you do. If thats possible. I thought thats what your board was for Sherlock. MB you CLAIM to have a book written about him,and yet you don't know the authors name...wanna find out. LOOK AT THE COVER its on there. With this combined intelligence this CASE is going to be cracked real soon. Anybody that has information regarding this CLOSED case had better BEWARE drexell is on the case You will be FOUND Out! TURN YOURSELVES IN BEFORE ITS TOO LATE.
You ladies should seek 1-professional help 2-Gainful employment or 3-audition for a COMEDY club because you are hilarious with much too much time on you investigative hands.
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Nov 25, 2003 22:44:21 GMT -5
Post by MB on Nov 25, 2003 22:44:21 GMT -5
You have lost me. I think you all think you smell blood. This is getting funnier by the minute.
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Nov 25, 2003 23:01:16 GMT -5
Post by Drexell on Nov 25, 2003 23:01:16 GMT -5
You have lost me. I think you all think you smell blood. This is getting funnier by the minute. MB, let it go. Even if they mention you. At some point the fact that hundred of people view this board, yet only a select few post will be addressed. CP is fair.
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Nov 25, 2003 23:16:40 GMT -5
Post by MB on Nov 25, 2003 23:16:40 GMT -5
MB, let it go. Even if they mention you. At some point the fact that hundred of people view this board, yet only a select few post will be addressed. CP is fair. you are right, you cant make a mule go backwards once it has set its mind to something. later
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Nov 25, 2003 23:23:32 GMT -5
Post by molly on Nov 25, 2003 23:23:32 GMT -5
Now Molly, if I had said this, I would've been accused of being defamatory, berating & everything else under the sun. That's why I know that this personal. Believe that! Common, you are absolutely right. This is very personal.
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Nov 25, 2003 23:31:51 GMT -5
Post by MB on Nov 25, 2003 23:31:51 GMT -5
MB oops I mean drexell opps I mean MB.. well who ever you are. Why Don't You Just Mind Your Own Damn Business? Why do you care? You didn't even know that the man didn't write his own songs. drexell knows even less about"Mr". David then you do. If thats possible. I thought thats what your board was for Sherlock. MB you CLAIM to have a book written about him,and yet you don't know the authors name...wanna find out. LOOK AT THE COVER its on there. With this combined intelligence this CASE is going to be cracked real soon. Anybody that has information regarding this CLOSED case had better BEWARE drexell is on the case You will be FOUND Out! TURN YOURSELVES IN BEFORE ITS TOO LATE. You ladies should seek 1-professional help 2-Gainful employment or 3-audition for a COMEDY club because you are hilarious with much too much time on you investigative hands. Well my professional help seems to have dissapeared from the board, I am sure my gainful employment is a lot better than most and I think I would take my chances with Drexell before I would some of you. Drexell makes more sense than some of you. I still wonder where Andy is. He skidaddled. Der between working on a Ph.D and a JOB, my extracirricular reading is usually very limited. I get on these boards for stress relief and research. I have read some things on the internet and part of 3 books so sue me. I havent seen you coming up with anything really profound about DR. Make fun all you want. At least I know when I dont know something. Do you?
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Nov 25, 2003 23:53:01 GMT -5
Post by molly on Nov 25, 2003 23:53:01 GMT -5
MB, let it go. Even if they mention you. At some point the fact that hundred of people view this board, yet only a select few post will be addressed. CP is fair. MB I really think you should take drexell's advice. What is your deal? You are a new-comer to this board boasting about all of your education ad behaving in this manner. Too bad along with your so-called education you didn't aquire some Class. How dare you come to this board spouting your opinions about the people on this board. you are really showing yourself to be quite disrespectful as well as an ignorant person. All you have done since Friday {my it seems much longer} is to criticize everything about this board posters and post. Nobody is interested in your opinions or your uneducated observations. It is becoming clearer with every post that your agenda is to disrupt and cause confusion. Well it's getting old . The people that post here should be able to post without your childish antics. Its stupid actually and not funny at all. Actually it is extremely disrespectful to CP and the other members on this board. For a person that seems to know so Little about David Ruffin's life. Why are you so interested in the events surrounding his death? The question is rhetorical. You have never been a part of this board yet your post would suggest that you have invested time here. it's time for this nonsense to stop. Bottom line you have absolutely nothing of worth or interest to say,so why bother. Why waste your time with people you have NOTHING in common with. Again rhetorical question.I don't know nor do I care what your agenda is,but if you feel so unwelcomed here why contnue to post your chid like messages? You've got it! Another rhetorical question. drexell I don't know if you know this person or not. But if you have any rapport with her at all. Please convince her that her type of interaction is not wanted or appreciated here. At the least MB be a woman of your word and do what your very long and uneccessary departure disortation promised. drexell I would not support or encourage ANYBODY to come to your board and behave the way MB has chosen to behave on this board. That would be out of respect for you. Because I happen to have both, Education and Class.
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