Common
Ultimate Ruffness
You Got To Feel It!
Posts: 7,442
|
Post by Common on Mar 8, 2004 22:14:25 GMT -5
Good evening all! To answer the question about what can be done, I was told that writing letters to Mr. Weinger would be effective. If anyone is interested, here is the address to write Mr. Weinger: Harry Weinger, VP of Catalog Universal Music Group 825 Eighth Avenue New York, NY 10019 Let's see what happens. It couldn't hurt to try.
|
|
Common
Ultimate Ruffness
You Got To Feel It!
Posts: 7,442
|
Post by Common on Mar 8, 2004 22:20:55 GMT -5
Hi Common: The problems can be dealt with, but my idea was for unreleased material to be released, esp. any tapes. The world should see how great David, Eddie and Paul looked, sang, and performed, before the evidence is lost forever. Hey Andy! I think it is much easier if we deal with David's recorded material first. When it comes to film footage, things can get mighty complicated. I totally agree that performances from various 60s shows that featured The Classic Five should be made available to the public. And some of them, you can pick up such as the recently released Ed Sullivan DVD, which has a DVD devoted to the Temptations & The Supremes. I think Dick Clark at one point, had sold videotapes of footage from American Bandstand but he discontinued doing so because it was too costly. He had to get licensing & rights from the estates of various deceased entertainers which could be a headache. So he just stop making these kinds of tapes. And he's not alone. It's the same scenario with other shows as well. It's a very costly venture, not mention all the tangle legal issues that would be involved. Aah, nothing's easy!
|
|
Common
Ultimate Ruffness
You Got To Feel It!
Posts: 7,442
|
Post by Common on Mar 9, 2004 10:22:54 GMT -5
For david's early stuff we would have to find his old labels BEFORE motown ... Luckily you have me to tell you what these are ;D ... VEGA, And ANNA (Anna being anna gordy, a sister company to motown owned BY BG's Sis) Vega was the first label David was ever on ... So beside motown we would have to petion VEGA and hope they agree ... But I am all up for it if it happens ... ;D Hey davidfan! No you don't need to go to those older labels that David recorded for because they either defunct or they were absorbed by Gordy's empire. So we still have present our case to Universal, the company that owns Motown. Please post above for address if you want to write a letter to Mr. Weinger. Thank you!
|
|
der68
Ultimate Ruffness
Posts: 3,573
|
Post by der68 on Mar 9, 2004 10:26:51 GMT -5
Thank you Common for the information. ;D
|
|
Common
Ultimate Ruffness
You Got To Feel It!
Posts: 7,442
|
Post by Common on Mar 9, 2004 10:32:25 GMT -5
You're quite welcome!
|
|
|
Post by BeesNVMe on Mar 9, 2004 15:36:19 GMT -5
Common, I ran across a website that sells old television shows. I have not checked to see if they have any shows that the Tempts were on, tho. Does anyone remember Lloyd Thaxton? Molly, I know you didn't watch that corny show, did you? www.moviesunlimited.com/tv_2.htmI see some shows on here that i wouldn't mind buying! Make Room For Daddy was one of my favorites...didn't that come on at Monday nite...7 ish?
|
|
molly
Ultimate Ruffness
Posts: 7,446
|
Post by molly on Mar 9, 2004 15:48:32 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by Andy on Mar 11, 2004 22:19:37 GMT -5
IF this is going to be done, we will first have to agree on an objective, the simpler the better. I can let everyone know, that this is not a good time for me, as I have my hands full of problems to solve, just like everyone else has. I hope my problems get resolved in 2-3 months. Then I might be able to do more than offer suggestions.
|
|
Common
Ultimate Ruffness
You Got To Feel It!
Posts: 7,442
|
Post by Common on Mar 15, 2004 12:11:54 GMT -5
Hi Andy: What should do in the meantime then? I understand you have more important things to take care of but I have contacted a couple of folks to help out. Should I tell them not to send anything just yet?
|
|
|
Post by Andy on Mar 16, 2004 6:13:04 GMT -5
Hi Common: May I ask why material which has been released should be released again? Don't we already have it, or am I overlooking something? Even so, there are at least three different goals and we should agree on which one is the easiest to get right now. They are 1) to re-release material 2) to release material not released before 3) to release material of live performances including any which were taped for all to see. Once the goal is agreed upon, then the language of the petion can be drafted and the petition can be distributed to board members and guests and then circulated for signatures. Perhaps it could be distributed electronically. Everyone should try to get as many signatures from people in the area where he/she lives and then the signature pages can be consolidated. The easier way would be an on line petition, but even if that's possible, getting enough signatures would be difficult.
|
|
|
Post by Abe bowen on Mar 16, 2004 13:44:13 GMT -5
Hello This is abe,in the Jacksons mini-series didn't it seemed to imply that Micheal Jackson looked to Berry Gordy as a father image,wouldn't it be interesting and ironic if Micheal bought Motown?
|
|
Common
Ultimate Ruffness
You Got To Feel It!
Posts: 7,442
|
Post by Common on Mar 16, 2004 17:24:48 GMT -5
Hi Common: May I ask why material which has been released should be released again? Don't we already have it, or am I overlooking something? Even so, there are at least three different goals and we should agree on which one is the easiest to get right now. They are 1) to re-release material 2) to release material not released before 3) to release material of live performances including any which were taped for all to see. Once the goal is agreed upon, then the language of the petion can be drafted and the petition can be distributed to board members and guests and then circulated for signatures. Perhaps it could be distributed electronically. Everyone should try to get as many signatures from people in the area where he/she lives and then the signature pages can be consolidated. The easier way would be an on line petition, but even if that's possible, getting enough signatures would be difficult. Hey Andy! So you don't want to write letters? Personally, I think letters are more effective than an online petition. It's kinda hard to get an online petition to the person who needs to see it, which is Mr. Weinger. We don't have an email addy where it could be sent to him so Universal address is the next best thing. Plus, if Mr. Weinger has the hard copies of actual support, it could help bolster his case to release David's recording material. That's #1. #2: The material I thought everyone was referring to was his recordings that he created at Motown from the early 60s til 1977. If you are talking about 'unreleased' material that maybe a different bag altogether. Motown is not going to release a whole CD with unreleased material, unless he was say, Marvin Gaye. It all comes down to dollars & sense. I think we should push first to get the material that was released. There are music lovers of David's on this very board that don't own all of his material except CD compliations. The only two LPs that have been released on CD for David have been the last two he did on Warner Brothers & those are manufactured & sold in Japan. I see them come up every now & then on ebay & the bidding sometimes goes all the way up to $60!!! This is something to consider. #3: Live footage is also tricky. That material may not be necessarily owned by Motown. And if so, it is probably owned by Suzanne DePase. To be honest, I don't know of there is any live footage of David unless it is a private owner or in the archives of TV shows. I've heard for a couple of years now by some of other posters that David appeared on a show that was hosted by Gino Washington in the 70s. The show came out of Detroit. BTW, I would like to hear other suggestions by other posters since there was interest expressed in trying to do something for David. I ain't trying to be a leader, lol, so I wish someone would, besides Andy, say something. ;D ;D
|
|
|
Post by BeesNVMe on Mar 16, 2004 19:40:55 GMT -5
Common, you've seen that footage, haven't you? That's the one David and Eddie are singing I Couldn't Believe It...where David was doing all those turns and splits, and stuff! Or is there one with just David? A few years ago, a lady named Marilyn said she had footage of those shows. Some sent her money; but they never got the footage.
|
|
|
Post by Andy on Mar 16, 2004 20:11:11 GMT -5
Hey Andy! So you don't want to write letters? Personally, I think letters are more effective than an online petition. It's kinda hard to get an online petition to the person who needs to see it, which is Mr. Weinger. We don't have an email addy where it could be sent to him so Universal address is the next best thing. Plus, if Mr. Weinger has the hard copies of actual support, it could help bolster his case to release David's recording material. That's #1. #2: The material I thought everyone was referring to was his recordings that he created at Motown from the early 60s til 1977. If you are talking about 'unreleased' material that maybe a different bag altogether. Motown is not going to release a whole CD with unreleased material, unless he was say, Marvin Gaye. It all comes down to dollars & sense. I think we should push first to get the material that was released. There are music lovers of David's on this very board that don't own all of his material except CD compliations. The only two LPs that have been released on CD for David have been the last two he did on Warner Brothers & those are manufactured & sold in Japan. I see them come up every now & then on ebay & the bidding sometimes goes all the way up to $60!!! This is something to consider. #3: Live footage is also tricky. That material may not be necessarily owned by Motown. And if so, it is probably owned by Suzanne DePase. To be honest, I don't know of there is any live footage of David unless it is a private owner or in the archives of TV shows. I've heard for a couple of years now by some of other posters that David appeared on a show that was hosted by Gino Washington in the 70s. The show came out of Detroit. BTW, I would like to hear other suggestions by other posters since there was interest expressed in trying to do something for David. I ain't trying to be a leader, lol, so I wish someone would, besides Andy, say something. ;D ;D Now I think I understand the problem. You are talking about releasing the original albums in their entirety. and not just selected hits, true? Also, please see my new post on DR. Trust me, Common, I'm not lookimg to create work for anyone, but this has bpthered me for a while.By the way, DR was just as good as Marvin Gaye.
|
|
Common
Ultimate Ruffness
You Got To Feel It!
Posts: 7,442
|
Post by Common on Mar 17, 2004 11:59:41 GMT -5
Hey Andy! I'm game for anything. The only solution for some folks who can't their hands on all of David's material is to go to Kazaa or one of those music download sites to obtain his material. And not all of it is uploaded either. So at this point, I'm open to try anything. So yes, I thought that was initial question which was to get all of David's material re-released on CD. About Marvin: I was only saying that because of Marvin's 'status' & the fact that his material was/is heavily promoted, it is easier to release unreleased material on. I would say that David even had some influence on Marvin, who eventually developed his own style. I think both men are great artists but it is just that one got promoted(not to mentioned that Marvin did create a ground breaking LP) & the other didn't. Whew! I think I got a little too longwinded there!
|
|