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DAVID
May 31, 2004 16:16:08 GMT -5
Post by reggie on May 31, 2004 16:16:08 GMT -5
The Newer fans want music based answer nothing personal. Regarding the #1 fan, sorry Reggie I can't share my status with none one. I work tooo hard to be in this position and I not about to give it up. Reggie, I have to put up with Joy and Jody do you know how stressful that is? May I make some suggestions Reggie #2 & #3 are vacant you might want to try for those spots.. Good Luck... I can imagine how stressful it would be to deal with one of the two people you mentioned. Dang you drive a hard bargin. I've gotta think about the number 2 spot. ;D ;D
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molly
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DAVID
May 31, 2004 18:33:50 GMT -5
Post by molly on May 31, 2004 18:33:50 GMT -5
Jody I did not make any reference to you or your knowledge of Ruff's music in my message. My statement was regarding Mrs.Sandra Ruffin and her openess to discuss her ex-husband with his fans. You made the disticntion between fans and personal relationships. In my opinion Sandra Ruffin's relationship was a lot more personal than any you enjoyed. Yet this woman welcomes questions about him. The consensus on this board is you don't know about his music. That was the consensus before I came here. The consensus judging from the messages is that you can not answer even general questions about his music ,career,or life. That was the consensus before I came here. Your message made it clear that these questions asked were fan based and you were not per se a fan.More of a reason for you to be able to table their questions. How your opinion is valued or not on this board is your doing not mine. Sandra Ruffin is an expert when it comes to her ex-husbands work.I would never compare or speak of you in a post where I am speaking of Sandra.A wife vs a girfriend I don't think that is fair or respectful. Fair to you Respectful to her. Very well said Reggie. I am going to say something that I have thought for quite a while. When anybody claims to know a famous person. It's natural for questions about that person to be asked of that individual. Nobody knows all there is to know about anybody regardless of the type of realtionship. If the famous person happens to be a musician,song producer/writer or singer. Questions about their craft are not technical questions. In Ruffin's case music and entertaining was his life. Jody didn't know Ruffin when he was a Temptation or at the beginning of his solo career. Nothing wrong with that. But it seems to me that the desire to learn about this time would be a priority. Why not become an expert? His music is what made him David Ruffin. That's what people want to hear about. That's what people expect You to know about. It's that simple. It's not fanatical for people to run to the stage or wait outside the dressing room for an autograph or just a glimpse of a star. It's human nature for a person to want to get close to greatness.It's also human nature for a person to ask questions of a person that knew this star off the stage. When you are unable to answer at least some of these questions. Then you leave people with the impression that you don't know that much about this person. When you share a life with a person you have to have some knowledge about their passion. It has nothing to do with conforming. It has everything to do with who you claim to be.and how you have presented yourself. Being his woman,or wife. You are expected to know about his music,and his struggle. Singers talk about their music and their careers with the people that are in their lives.
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molly
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DAVID
May 31, 2004 18:42:09 GMT -5
Post by molly on May 31, 2004 18:42:09 GMT -5
You mean to tell me Sandra Ruffin will talk to us OMG.. Reggie, I will be speechless all the stuff I ask on the board I will be too SCARE to ask her. First thing I will be doing is starring at her thinking OMG please help me Jesus I am praying this is not a dream. And then I will cry until the tears stop coming down my face. The thought holding a conversation with Sandra Ruffin will blow my mind. To be honest I don't think I will be able to stay in the same room with Mrs Ruffin too personal. Same holds true to Der68, Mrs. Molly, and you. I don't think I can meet y'all face-to-face why because of the respect level. I will be speechless y'all will have to do the talking. I will be more concern did I say something I was not suppose to say choosing my words careful. On the other hand, I will have no problem with talking to Jody. First thing I will do is write down everything she told when it is my time I will repeat her questions to see if the story is correct. LMBAO!!!! QNew you are so funny!!!!!!! I wish we could have a Ruffin convention and meet face to face. ;D ;DI think that would be wonderful. I also wish you could have an opportunity to speak to the ex Mrs.Ruffin. I agree with Common. I also believe there is a lot of love there.
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molly
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DAVID
May 31, 2004 18:43:36 GMT -5
Post by molly on May 31, 2004 18:43:36 GMT -5
I can imagine how stressful it would be to deal with one of the two people you mentioned. Dang you drive a hard bargin. I've gotta think about the number 2 spot. ;D ;D How does Reggie atomatically get the number 2 spot?
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DAVID
May 31, 2004 21:12:07 GMT -5
Post by Queenie on May 31, 2004 21:12:07 GMT -5
How does Reggie atomatically get the number 2 spot? Mrs. Molly the number 1 spot is locked however the two and three spots are open for the taking. Reggie is thinking about it he has not commit to the spot. Therefore you can claim the spot before rest of the members come to the palace.
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DAVID
May 31, 2004 21:16:30 GMT -5
Post by Queenie on May 31, 2004 21:16:30 GMT -5
Sorry I posted too soon. I don't know how many of you know Sandra Ruffin. But those of you that do can back me up on this. ;DIf a fan of Ruff's would sit down and talk to her,she would talk your head off about Ruff. She wants people to know about him. She appreciates the fans. She is happy that there is still a interest in him and his music. This lady knows all of his music. As long as Ruff's music is being played he will live.. That's why I love y'all. The only way to learn is to ask questions. So right on newer fans. Ask away.I was a fan,and I am not ashamed to admit it. A fan and a friend. ;D A lot of us do not know Mrs. Sandra Ruffin Joy, Genna, DF, Jody, ME, and all the new fans. By saying this we welcome all comments, stories, long speeches about the Ruffin Man.
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DAVID
May 31, 2004 22:12:30 GMT -5
Post by Jody on May 31, 2004 22:12:30 GMT -5
Jody why are you jumping down on Reggie case he stated he was a fan and friend. However your comments to me was you were not a fan. Now you are a fan what gives?? You told me you knew David on a personal level therefore YOU did not want to share personal details. Okay.. I can live with that but when someone else say they are fan you are ready to bring the bull dozer. I never ask you about your relationship with David why because it is none of the my business. As far as I am concern you can jump on the ceiling and it is none of my business. Also Reggie stated how Mrs. Ruffin enjoy fans to talk about David keeps in his music alive. You hear that Mrs. Jody she loves the Fans ME talking about David also Me. You have a problem with that OMG. I think the problem is YOU want to be the only person in David's life and when folks talk about Der68 and Sandra. You can't handle the conversations. If is not coming from you, it can't be true. What nice slogan Thanks Jody.. Next thread I start will focus on YOU.. As a child Jody, did you want to be center of attention? In your next life, you will be an excellent attorney. You love to dance around the truth. One more thing I know you are going to find this hard to believe Reggie knows more than you about David. You only know what David has told you. On the other hand, David has told Reggie how he feels about life period. Queen, there is a difference in enjoying seeing someone enjoy what they are doing and being proud of them, and being a fan. I didn't even know who David Ruffin was when I first went to see him. A girl friend ask me to go. I knew who the Temptations were, just didn't know who they were individually. I was in the music industry, and knew many different artist in many different fields. I just was not a fan in the sense you seem to be...It was a business to me. I also love the fact that you are his fan. Where would David have been if his fans had not been there in his early career? I do wonder where they were when he needed them so much?The time he sat in the house on Parkside without heat and power. Where were they then? I have repeatedly said that David had other women in his life and I have talked and do talk to some of them.I have said that they deserve respect for what they had with David. None of us are perfect, we are human and have done nothing but have a relationship with another human...David...You ask me a question, I replied, then when someone else jumps in, you want to dog. Just remember, what goes aorund comes aorund...Then go for it... I love to dance Queen, just not around the truth. I told you before, believe and say what you want...I have not told anything but the truth...If your heart, not someone else, tells you I am wrong, believe what you will... GOD bless you and yours...
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DAVID
May 31, 2004 22:13:41 GMT -5
Post by BeesNVMe on May 31, 2004 22:13:41 GMT -5
;D ;D ;DBeesnvme,Broman are y'all gonna fire up the grill. This is Memorial Day. What no cook out? ;D ;D Hey Reggie! I did not feel like firing up the grill today...thought maybe Queenie would handle that. BroMan was invited out...he'll be back later. Reggie, we do, however have some of your Crown left. That is if Der and Molly didn't drink it all up!
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DAVID
May 31, 2004 22:18:56 GMT -5
Post by BeesNVMe on May 31, 2004 22:18:56 GMT -5
Like I said Common, there is no way I will be able to hold a conversation with Mrs. Sandra Ruffin because I will starring at her praying I am not dreaming. Nope the message is my forum to get the love out for David. Anything else I will have a heart attack. Queenie, Sandra is a very warm and kind person. I'm sure you would not have a problem talking to her...she is very easy to talk to.
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DAVID
May 31, 2004 22:22:04 GMT -5
Post by Jody on May 31, 2004 22:22:04 GMT -5
A lot of us do not know Mrs. Sandra Ruffin Joy, Genna, DF, Jody, ME, and all the new fans. By saying this we welcome all comments, stories, long speeches about the Ruffin Man. That is a sad, you have no idea what you are saying. I have no idea about the others, but Genna and I both know Sandra. I am not friends with Sandra, but I know her and have been with David in her presence after they were divorced...I take nothing away from Sandra. You just don't know the whole story...
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DAVID
May 31, 2004 22:28:41 GMT -5
Post by BeesNVMe on May 31, 2004 22:28:41 GMT -5
QNew! I was a fan of Ruffin's music as well as being a friend. I too wish I could go back to the old board so I could see the information that Jody posted. I did not have an intimate realtionship with Ruffin,niether did Bees but I did have a personal one with him for many years. The questions you newer fans ask are questions that should be answered by people that knew him. "Fan" based questions are those in which anyone with a personal knowledge of Ruffin should be answering. IE shoe size? favorite eatery's,his relationship with different group members,favorite color. Most of the questions asked here have to do with his musical career. I would think that those questions shou l d be easily answered by any of us that claim to have known him. There are personal things about Ruffin that I would not discuss on a message board. But I don't consider his music one of them. If I was a fan I would expect the people that knew him to answer my questions.But that's just me. Der68 had an intimate relationship with Ruffin,and she doesn't speak of their private life. Which I appreciate because their intimate life does not interest me. However she does answer questions from "fans' that deal with his career and general knowledge of his life. I agree with Jody on one of her statements. There is a difference between a fan snd one that actually knew him. The people that knew him should certainly know more about him then a fan. QNew be proud to be a fan. Because he truly loved and appreciated his fans. That's what made him. I was one of those fans who stood at the foot of the stage hollering and screaming for more. That's exactly how I got to meet Ruffin. I used to get backstage and just stand in awe with my mouth wide open, afraid to speak because I would wake up from my dream. But I wasn't dreaming and was very fortunate that David Ruffin and Eddie Kendricks didn't mind kickin it with their fans. I think they really got a big kick out of it! ;D Lucky for us that they were very appreciative of their fans. I could not think of anyone better to be a fan of.
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DAVID
May 31, 2004 22:36:41 GMT -5
Post by Queenie on May 31, 2004 22:36:41 GMT -5
I was one of those fans who stood at the foot of the stage hollering and screaming for more. That's exactly how I got to meet Ruffin. I used to get backstage and just stand in awe with my mouth wide open, afraid to speak because I would wake up from my dream. But I wasn't dreaming and was very fortunate that David Ruffin and Eddie Kendricks didn't mind kickin it with their fans. I think they really got a big kick out of it! ;D Lucky for us that they were very appreciative of their fans. I could not think of anyone better to be a fan of. Dang Bee , I thought you met David when he went solo. You met David when he was with Tempts (Gosh) and met EKJ.
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DAVID
May 31, 2004 22:36:42 GMT -5
Post by molly on May 31, 2004 22:36:42 GMT -5
I also love the fact that you are his fan. Where would David have been if his fans had not been there in his early career? I do wonder where they were when he needed them so much?The time he sat in the house on Parkside without heat and power. Where were they then? I want to ask this question ...Not to start an argument but because I really want to know. Where were YOU when he didn't have heat or power? That would seem to be a time when his women that loved him soooooooo much would have steped up!!!!! genna tells a similar story in her book. Are you referring to that or was that brotha's utilities always trunt off?
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DAVID
May 31, 2004 22:43:20 GMT -5
Post by molly on May 31, 2004 22:43:20 GMT -5
That is a sad, you have no idea what you are saying. I have no idea about the others, but Genna and I both know Sandra. I am not friends with Sandra, but I know her and have been with David in her presence after they were divorced...I take nothing away from Sandra. You just don't know the whole story... Seeing Sandra and knowing her is two different things. You saw her in Ruffin's presence??? So did genna. But it wasn't a planned meeting. The truth of the matter is in both your and genna's case Sandra was looking for Ruffin. You both just happened to be with him when she caught up with him. You both knew enough not to say anything to her. I'll give you both that much. ;D But to say you KNOW her. Naw! you do not.
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DAVID
May 31, 2004 22:53:10 GMT -5
Post by Queenie on May 31, 2004 22:53:10 GMT -5
That is a sad, you have no idea what you are saying. I have no idea about the others, but Genna and I both know Sandra. I am not friends with Sandra, but I know her and have been with David in her presence after they were divorced...I take nothing away from Sandra. You just don't know the whole story... Now you know I don't believe THIS.. I can be con in a lot of things but Genna and you met Mrs. Ruffin lawd have mercy. Now you know I love DER but Mr. DER is no fool. BTW, I read Genna distorted lies book when she came across Mrs. Sandra the lady was scare to death. In your case, you were too and if you did come across Mrs. Sandra you did not introduce yourself. When you met Mrs. Sandra did y'all sit down and drink tea talk about the good o'days trade cookbooks, PLEASE.
Like I said, David did not bring every Tom, Dick, and Harry around Mrs. Ruffin and their children. Please not repeat this story I can’t continue to response because it is plum ridiculous. Also please don't share this story with anyone because people will laugh at you. Genna was the out of sight and out mind girl friend and were the hidden girlfriend.
Gosh, you remind me of O background singers with a lot of power. You were a girlfriend with a lot upfront power. Nope Jody this is not true I know I am young but the word stupid is not in my vocabulary.
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