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Post by der68 on Nov 7, 2003 20:49:57 GMT -5
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Post by Joda on Nov 7, 2003 21:17:00 GMT -5
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Post by molly on Nov 7, 2003 21:49:46 GMT -5
Well All righty then der. Get that mess straight. That's the problem I have with Genna's book. There are people out there that actually think she's telling the truth. She's one of the biggest frauds beginning with her name to her book. She also describes that apartment in her book. She was never invited there as a guest. What did she do Break In? Had she actually saw their aprtment I'm sure she recognized certain items that made their way to Parkside. Because there were items that David kept from their apartment. She didn't write about that. Because she didn't know. I wish I could think of a name to call her that I haven't already called her. But I can't .She has totally depleted my vocabulary.
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Post by der68 on Nov 7, 2003 23:39:02 GMT -5
Hello Molly and Jody. Molly regarding Genna's book. It is so sad that people are forming their impressions based on what a bitter,vindictive,mental unstable woman says. That's what bothers me. I would have sued her had she mentioned me in any way in her book. And I'm positive Genna knew that. Jody on the beatng's. i can't believe David was such a monster that he beat every woman he was involved with. I wouldn't allow myself to be a battered woman,but it's obvious Genna did. I'm not saying that it was right if it did happen. I'm saying why did she take it? And the truth is David wasn't the only one that Beat her. >:(According to her he not only beat her. He abused her verbally,had on living on welfar,abused her child,and he was supposed to have loved her? ? I'm glad I didn't share in that kind of love. But what's sad is after all of this abuse she claimed to have LOVED him??? How does that work??? Jody I loved David as you did,but had David raised his hand to me trust me I would have been long gone,and he would have been so locked up. So if Genna or any other woman allowed themselves to be abused by David. I'm saying it. It was their own fault!!!! They didn't have to take it. Good Night Ladies
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Post by Joda on Nov 8, 2003 12:22:47 GMT -5
:oYou know ladies, what actually had me rocking about this book, is how it had to effect Jr and the girls. How horrible to have someone talk about your Dad like he was a dog. Do you know I told Jr. some time back that I knew how much David loved him because of the times David and I talked, and how worried David had been about whether he was being raised right. Jr. thanked me for telling him that his Dad loved him. The accusations leveled against David had to hurt the kids. Those kind of things usually put a question in your mind. :'(Another thing, why put this out there after David had passed and could not stand up to himself? That is what we are doing for him though...RIGHT???Standing up!!! ;D Genna, if you read this, I don't discredit you being with David, I have always told you that. You deserve your place in David's history. What I do ask you is WHY did you write this mess? It served NO PURPOSE. You didn't have to stay there and take it. der just said it. We had the opportunity to be beaten as well, it NEVER happened. In fact David was a gentleman to me, ALWAYS! I bet der would tell you the same. Now, I realize alot of mean things have been said about you Genna, and that has to hurt JR., and I am sorry if you hurt, Or JR, but if you love David as you say, put the love out there for him. Who caused the bad stuff is up for grabs...Love and hate is a two way street... Regarding Sandra...SHE deserves respect for raising those girls. There is a lot to that story, and she could have been vindictive. So far, Sandra lets her love shine, :-*not hate...
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Post by molly on Nov 8, 2003 14:07:18 GMT -5
Hello Board. Regarding the affect Genna’s book had on David’s kids. Having a mother like Genna I’m sure Jr. was raised on horror stories about David. According to her book Jr. was a victim as too. As far as the affect on David’s daughter’s, the book probably just pissed them off. That is if they even read it. Contrary to some people’s beliefs. David had a relationship with his daughters They knew their father. They were not babies when their father died. Their mother is the Lady David their father married. They were born Ruffin’s. David gave Sandra something that he gave to only one other woman in this world .His Name. For Genna or quite frankly any other woman that was in David’s life to think they were equal to Sandra or Joy is just plain Stupid. Jody, Genna wrote that book for Money and Recognition She wants the acknowledgment of David’s fans so she can cash in on his name. You are right Sandra Ruffin is a woman to be respected, not only because she reared his children, but also because he married her. That’s the woman with a Prominent and Permanent place in David Ruffin’s history.
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Post by der68 on Nov 8, 2003 14:48:36 GMT -5
Hi Molly. You spoke the truth in your last post. There was a time when reading that would have hurt my feeling's. But I have learned over the years that the truth cannot be altered to jive with my feeling's. David on many occasion's introduced me as his wife,or referred to me as his wife. But I knew I wasn't his wife,and I never pretended to be. Marge not any of us {David's women} can be compared to Sandra or Joy. David had a lot of women/lady friends but only 2 wives. I believed had Tammi Terrell lived David would have married her. This is my opinion based soley on conversations I had with David concerning her. We will never know how that would have went. As I said before I knew my role,and I accepted it. You can't change history. Genna tries to minimize David's relationship with his wife in an effort to make herself look more important that she really was.
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Post by Common on Nov 8, 2003 20:49:08 GMT -5
Good nite everyone! Molly, I agree wholeheartedly with your post. What is the saying? The whole world is a stage & everyone has a part in it. Some major, some minor. Nevertheless, we play a part in each others lives. I don't like to keep dwelling on you-know-who because I think we are giving her exactly what she doesn't need: more advertisement & publicity. However, it is important that people who actually MET this woman, give some insight as to who & what she was & why did she say the things she said in her so-called trash book. I'm not going to dispute the abuse charges because, quite frankly, I was not there. No one knows what happened. But her creditablity has been called into question because of some of the accusations that she made in her book that people dispute didn't happen that way or didn't happen at all. So that makes it more difficult for her to be taken seriously. I, too, agree that she definitely was not all of that in the man's life & exaggerated her role to appear as if she was so important. If one thing I learned from this is that women need to feel better about themselves & not sit around waiting for some man, entertainer or not, validate their existance. It seems like, in particular, you der68, have moved on with your life & have not stop living. I think that says something about how you have chosen to deal with things. Sandra Ruffin, the same thing. A really special & vibrant person who has remained humbled despite the assault to her character by you-know-who. I really hope that one day she decides to tell her story. It would be worth the wait.
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Post by der68 on Nov 9, 2003 14:37:02 GMT -5
Thank you so much Common for your post. I loved David in life,and I still love him in death. But the truth of the matter is I had tried to go on with my life before he died. I was hopeful after I had seen David in Philly that maybe there was a chance for us to reconcile,and I wanted to believe the promises he made to me at that time. But I have no way of knowing that had he lived we would have been together. Debbie{another lady friend}told me at his funeral that David had told her the same thing.{that he was returning to her} I didn't know her before the funeral.CC told me David had told her he was coming back to me. Who knows? Although I miss him I didn't die with David,and I can't spend the time I have left clinging to the past. David is not coming back to me or anyone else,so what would I be waiting on? I will always treasure our time together,but my life was never centered around David. He was a BIG part of my life,but he wasn't my life {if that makes sense}I have gone forward with my life believing that one day we will meet again.lol!lol! That's going to be one crowded reunion. Thank you Common again. Logged
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Post by Common on Nov 10, 2003 14:14:59 GMT -5
Hey der68! You're quite welcome.That's a wonderful way to view life. I know it is not as easy as you have posted it but I guess it is true when they say that with adversity comes strength. (Better yet, don't quote me cause I never get it right! LOL! ;D ). David just struck me as such a lively person, I don't think he would've wanted anyone to be sad. David is probably partyin right now, nonstop! And I could only imagine how that reunion is gonna be. David was a very popular guy!
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Post by der68 on Nov 10, 2003 15:39:34 GMT -5
;D ;D Common I thought your quote was wonderful. Hand/Foot all the same. ;D ;D ;D Your impression of David is so right on. David loved life and was full of life. He had so many funny saying's and actions.When he was onstage or off he bought a type of joy to everybody in his company. Thats why I have so many good memories of him. It wasn't as easy as it sounds,but I gained strength knowing that I was good to David. As good as he would allow me to be. So I didn't have any regrets. That was the greatest consolation to me. Like I have said before we split on a bad note,but we were given another chance to rectify a lot of things. I am so thankful for those 2 days in Philly. ;D ;DRegarding that reunion ;D ;DI know there will be a long line ;D ;DI'm going to try to line up behind Sandra and Tammi ;D ;D
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Post by der68 on Nov 10, 2003 15:50:08 GMT -5
:DMarge. Thank you for your words too. Gurl,we're a lot alike. I agree trying to convince folks to believe you is too Hard. I'm sure you'll be in that reunion line too!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Common on Nov 10, 2003 16:05:03 GMT -5
Der68- Since there will be a long line at the reunion, you think you could hook a sista up? ;D ;D I really don't feel like bogarding my way through those other fans. ;D ;D I think I need to keep a quote book handy the way Andy keeps his dictionary close by. I seem to have these quote a** backwards! ;D ;D
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Post by molly on Nov 10, 2003 16:26:55 GMT -5
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Post by Joda on Nov 10, 2003 21:01:34 GMT -5
:'(der, did you have a chance to talk to CC again before she passed? That was December 23, 1992. CC was a card. I loved her with her crazy self...We didn't have a lot in common, but we clicked for some reason. She loved her some brother David. ;D I miss her!!!
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