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Post by SarahLee on Dec 3, 2007 0:04:35 GMT -5
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Post by ruffinlove on Dec 3, 2007 0:29:40 GMT -5
Hey SL!! . Omg that crap is still running? I forgot about that site lollol.
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Post by SarahLee on Dec 3, 2007 0:39:22 GMT -5
Hey SL!! . Omg that crap is still running? I forgot about that site lollol. Hey RL I was bored so I was surfing and decided to see if it was still up.LOL! Yep! It's still up and people are still LOL!
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Post by Queenie on Dec 3, 2007 6:14:43 GMT -5
Well a least folks have Genna's number she is a fraud and she will never will be accept among DER's family, friends and most important his fans.
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Post by Common on Dec 3, 2007 9:06:16 GMT -5
I'm always quite puzzled at people who go to a site to complain about another site yet they don't want to create their own site. LOL! I don't know if that crazyruffins person is talking about this site but if they are reading this, I would like to say you have been misinformed. Nobody here has ever condone DR's behavior nor our opinions 'one-sided' here. I scratch my head sometimes wanting to know what people are reading as we don't always agree with each other here. Is it problem that because folks share a comradarie(sp?) here that translates into people thinking that diverse opinions are not welcomed here? Or do people think that we should solely bash DR on his personal life and totally ignore his musical contributions? If you have a fresh perspective to add, then bring it. BTW, not everyone here is a DR fan either.
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Post by Duchess on Dec 3, 2007 16:27:11 GMT -5
I can't front, I like CrazyRuffins! She's got a point. A lot of these sites are OBSESSIVE & FANATICAL! With all these b*tches going on and on and on about how David loved Sandra & Tammi. How the hell do they know that? They want to paint this fantasy that David & Sandra or David & Tammi were this great couple and that they were soul-mates, and blah blah blah blah. It's totally ridiculous lol! I wish CrazyRuffins would come over here and read the stuff that some of us have said about David. At the end of the day, it seems most of us here are fans of David's music but we will not hesitate to call him a womanizer or a crackhead (at least I won't, anyway lol). There are different levels of DR fans here - Some of yall LOVE David, while some of us just LOVE the music. I'm one of those fans that just love the music. I could really care less who David loved or didn't love (although I can't stand that crazy b*tch Genna). CrazyRuffins, dahling, you need to come over here where you are free to discuss what you feel about David. If you have a sincere love for his music, then I can't be mad at 'cha! Later
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Post by Common on Dec 3, 2007 19:36:55 GMT -5
I must be living in a bubble because I didn't know that there were other DR messageboards. And about David, Sandra & Tammi: they must have been reading this board. There are folks like Molly, DER68(whom you have not met) and Reggie(you have not met him either) who knew DR personally for years. They have talked about David extensively on this board, the good, the bad and the ugly. You have not been here in a long time, Duchess, so you have missed alot. I do think that David did have some love for Sandra and he definitely loved Tammi. I don't see where that is 'fantatical' to say that, especially if his closest friends have said that. It was obvious to me when I met Ms. Sandra that she still loved David. If he was that horrible, her attitude would have reflected that. We do not condone David's abuse of women, particuarly Tammi and Genna. I don't know of other women except one that used to post here said he never put his hands on her. Personally, it's not that deep for me but folks should watch when throwing the word 'fantatical' around. "Fantatical" to me is when you act like the entertainer's s**t don't stink or act like that said entertainer is some kind of saint. DR was no saint but hell, neither are we. I'm sure that poster would get very honest answers to her questions if she posted here. DR was human like the rest of us. I don't get caught up in that celebrity stuff.
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Post by ruffinlove on Dec 3, 2007 21:26:57 GMT -5
I read some of the CrazyRuffins post.I need to know which sites this person is talking about. I know for certain that this MB is all about the good, bad ugly and TRUTH.
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Post by Duchess on Dec 3, 2007 21:58:22 GMT -5
Granted I haven't been around in a while, but even if I was, that still doesn't diminish the fact that Molly, DER68 or Reggie don't really know what was in David's heart. Some people get on these boards and make all these statements & comments like they are the gospel truth lol! All we as fans (and even people who claim to have known David) can really do is just love the music and speculate on his feelings. Like I personally think David did love Sandra and even Tammi, but I am not naive enough to state that as fact, or state that it was the romance of the century lol. And just because you assume Sandra still has love for David does not mean he loved her, or that he treated her well. I mean, something went wrong I'm not saying that because you feel he loved Sandra & Tammi you are a fanatic. The fanatics are the ones who feel David could do no wrong, or make statements about DR that they CANNOT possibly know as fact but assume they are! It's totally ridiculous to believe everything you read online as fact and to make sweeping indictments about how someone thought or felt. ALL WE CAN DO IS SPECULATE - That's all I'm saying. Later P.S. And a good example of fanatics and overly obsessiveness is those biddies that used to be on Eddie Kendricks' iMusic board lol! They were hella fanatical lol!
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Post by molly on Dec 3, 2007 22:05:50 GMT -5
I must be living in a bubble because I didn't know that there were other DR messageboards. And about David, Sandra & Tammi: they must have been reading this board. There are folks like Molly, DER68(whom you have not met) and Reggie(you have not met him either) who knew DR personally for years. They have talked about David extensively on this board, the good, the bad and the ugly. You have not been here in a long time, Duchess, so you have missed alot. I do think that David did have some love for Sandra and he definitely loved Tammi. I don't see where that is 'fantatical' to say that, especially if his closest friends have said that. It was obvious to me when I met Ms. Sandra that she still loved David. If he was that horrible, her attitude would have reflected that. We do not condone David's abuse of women, particuarly Tammi and Genna. I don't know of other women except one that used to post here said he never put his hands on her. Personally, it's not that deep for me but folks should watch when throwing the word 'fantatical' around. "Fantatical" to me is when you act like the entertainer's s**t don't stink or act like that said entertainer is some kind of saint. DR was no saint but hell, neither are we. I'm sure that poster would get very honest answers to her questions if she posted here. DR was human like the rest of us. I don't get caught up in that celebrity stuff. I read some of crazyruffin's post ,and for the life of me I don't know wth she's talking about. The blog is about genna's lying ass.yet she post talking about if you want to hate on somebody hate on DR. I ain't hating on Ruffin because of anything he did to Sandra,Tammi (whom I loved) and certainly not genna. I do believe he loved Sandra and Tammi, but hell too many women too much Temptation LOL!LOL! Of course the drug addiction didn't help much either. I don't think any of them had a "dream' relationship with him umm except jody.(at least that's the story she's telling) I don't see how they could LOL! Ruffin was something else. I do love Ruffin and his music,but I wasn't on the recieving end of any ass whoopings. Knowing him as a friend was fun because he was fun. I don't know if he and Sandra fought,but Lawd! knows him and TT did. LOL!LOL! but no matter what went down she was loving her some Ruffin.
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Post by molly on Dec 3, 2007 22:15:59 GMT -5
I read some of the CrazyRuffins post.I need to know which sites this person is talking about. I know for certain that this MB is all about the good, bad ugly and TRUTH. Is she talking about us being fanatical?? LOL!LOL!
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Post by Common on Dec 3, 2007 22:16:04 GMT -5
Granted I haven't been around in a while, but even if I was, that still doesn't diminish the fact that Molly, DER68 or Reggie don't really know what was in David's heart. Some people get on these boards and make all these statements & comments like they are the gospel truth lol! All we as fans (and even people who claim to have known David) can really do is just love the music and speculate on his feelings. Like I personally think David did love Sandra and even Tammi, but I am not naive enough to state that as fact, or state that it was the romance of the century lol. And just because you assume Sandra still has love for David does not mean he loved her, or that he treated her well. I mean, something went wrong I'm not saying that because you feel he loved Sandra & Tammi you are a fanatic. The fanatics are the ones who feel David could do no wrong, or make statements about DR that they CANNOT possibly know as fact but assume they are! It's totally ridiculous to believe everything you read online as fact and to make sweeping indictments about how someone thought or felt. ALL WE CAN DO IS SPECULATE - That's all I'm saying. Later P.S. And a good example of fanatics and overly obsessiveness is those biddies that used to be on Eddie Kendricks' iMusic board lol! They were hella fanatical lol! That's the thing that I'm saying here as well. What was in David's heart, we will never know. But at the same time, why is it okay to doubt that he didn't. To me, that can go either way. I'm also not going to dismiss what some of those closest to him say either. But I'm sure Molly will read this and she can explain it better than I can. I agree that the fans are speculating but I think those that were closest to him can reveal more about him as a person. To me, that is the most important aspect. What was he like as person that made him sing the way he did. I'm sure David kept a lot of things inside, but to say, to my ears, that he didn't 'love' anybody(and that seems to be the implication that that poster on the blog is making) is just as out of bounds as those who say he did. BTW, I don't believe everything online but I do believe Molly, DER68 and Reggie. That's just me. However, I do remember in Tony's book that David did say himself that he loved Tammi and stated that his drug usage was a result of the way he treated her and the guilt he felt.(sorry for all those 'ands'). Perhaps that is where some of the fans are basing their views on. I still want to know what messageboards that poster was talking about.
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Post by Common on Dec 3, 2007 22:27:28 GMT -5
I just want to add that I do not know what happened David and Sandra and surely that David acted the fool once the drugs and the fame was on full blast. He probably was not easy to live with and not to mention, as Molly stated, there 'were too many temptations of the female persuasion'. lol. However, as years have passed and temperaments have mellowed, I think folks who are forgiving, are willing to let things go. Of course, this SPECULATION on my part, but I think somewhere along the way, Sandra seemed to have forgiven David. It had to be hard for her to have her man leave her with children for another woman. So in no way should this be romanticized.
I think some fans would like for Ruffin not be beaten up all the time and honestly, it does get a bit much with the constant bashing as if Ruffin was the only singer in Rock & Roll history to lead a controversial life. I think fans see some pieces of Ruffin in them that they could relate to.
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Post by Common on Dec 3, 2007 22:32:14 GMT -5
I must be living in a bubble because I didn't know that there were other DR messageboards. And about David, Sandra & Tammi: they must have been reading this board. There are folks like Molly, DER68(whom you have not met) and Reggie(you have not met him either) who knew DR personally for years. They have talked about David extensively on this board, the good, the bad and the ugly. You have not been here in a long time, Duchess, so you have missed alot. I do think that David did have some love for Sandra and he definitely loved Tammi. I don't see where that is 'fantatical' to say that, especially if his closest friends have said that. It was obvious to me when I met Ms. Sandra that she still loved David. If he was that horrible, her attitude would have reflected that. We do not condone David's abuse of women, particuarly Tammi and Genna. I don't know of other women except one that used to post here said he never put his hands on her. Personally, it's not that deep for me but folks should watch when throwing the word 'fantatical' around. "Fantatical" to me is when you act like the entertainer's s**t don't stink or act like that said entertainer is some kind of saint. DR was no saint but hell, neither are we. I'm sure that poster would get very honest answers to her questions if she posted here. DR was human like the rest of us. I don't get caught up in that celebrity stuff. I read some of crazyruffin's post ,and for the life of me I don't know wth she's talking about. The blog is about genna's lying ass.yet she post talking about if you want to hate on somebody hate on DR. I ain't hating on Ruffin because of anything he did to Sandra,Tammi (whom I loved) and certainly not genna. I do believe he loved Sandra and Tammi, but hell too many women too much Temptation LOL!LOL! Of course the drug addiction didn't help much either. I don't think any of them had a "dream' relationship with him umm except jody.(at least that's the story she's telling) I don't see how they could LOL! Ruffin was something else. I do love Ruffin and his music,but I wasn't on the recieving end of any ass whoopings. Knowing him as a friend was fun because he was fun. I don't know if he and Sandra fought,but Lawd! knows him and TT did. LOL!LOL! but no matter what went down she was loving her some Ruffin. Molly, thank you. This is why I stay away from some of TT sites because some of them think that Tammi is saint and they use the book about her as evidence of it. LOL. Personally, after I read TT's book, I could not help but feel some underlying sibling rivalry and I really don't believe Ludie knew her sister as well as she thought she did. Even she said that Tammi did not confide in her about the things she went through in her short life, particularly as it pertained to DR.
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Post by EmergingRuffian on Dec 3, 2007 22:40:57 GMT -5
Before I slowly back out of this thread and return to my rock, here are my thoughts on the topic.
The beauty of this board is that out of all of the Ruffin boards that I have visited, this is the only one that I joined. This board is fun and this board has members that were close to Ruffin. As Common stated, Molly, DER68 and Reggie (and lets not forget Smokey and Bees) shared stories that were funny, insightful, and painful; they shared their memories of Ruffin with us. Did they share all of their memories, no. Did they share memories that provided some insight into the man, yes. Did they know what was in his heart? I believe they knew as much as a best friend (Reggie) would know or as much as a lover (DER68) would know or as much as a very good friend would know (Molly). Does that make us fanatical? I do not believe so. I believe that helps us understand Ruffin the man as much as we love Ruffin the performer.
As far as that crazyruffin person, I don't quite understand her argument. She seems to forget that Ruffin is loved for what he did as a performer. Last time I checked, genna did not record any songs or perform as a Temptation. There is no reason for anyone to be in awe of gena. All she did was spread her legs for a man and, allegedly, pop out a kid. If genna was as crazy back when she was chasing Ruffin all over Detroit as she is now, I don't blame Ruffin for whooping her ass.
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